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+<PRE>> I think u just point out here the Open Source Concept as one

+> of the biggest joke of the end of twentieth century .

+

+Well, there is stupid people that laugh at important things.

+Idiots things everything is a joke. :-/

+> Software code in itself is not that important thing when GPL is

+> concerned,

+> and beeing able to read it and extract the major concepts of a software

+> is

+> the great thing : u always proceed with reverse engineering , - the

+> ever

+> coming question how do they do that - even when using software like ...

+> those which don't provide source code .

+

+You didn't understand it...

+GPL is not about reading others code... but giving you the freedom to copy,

+modify and resuse it under the GPL License.

+> That's why GPL is a bad trick to minor companies and therefore for

+> individuals :

+> releasing code shows the overall software architecture , may let u get

+> insights

+> about hardcore coded sections and definitively unprotects the source

+> providers .

+

+No, because all the code is under the GPL.

+If you read it, and code it on your way, then you could set whatever license you

+want... it is up to your ethical being to say if you use GPL or not.

+> Good and Exceptionnal concepts are quickly analysed (you always need to

+> understand

+> the philosophy that drives a software architecture to be able to use it)

+> So major companies will reuse GPLed code that much faster than minor

+> entities

+> - as far as software production is concerned -

+> I think that instead of promoting talents ,GPL comes with a global

+> leverage tendance .

+

+You are totally wrong... GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big,

+great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such

+project as mine is without GPL.

+GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you

+get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/

+> Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable

+> company

+> protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note

+> that I'm in no way related to MS .

+> Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism

+> died

+> out of realism ?

+

+GPL is not about companies, but about users.

+GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work.

+I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because:

+1) It make faster the development.

+2) The user base is also developers base

+3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier.

+4) Port to other OS are almost automatic.

+5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game )

+Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things???

+> Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage'

+> methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever

+> thought

+> that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable

+> way of

+> thinking and only fools rush in .

+

+Man... you have serious problems with your ethics.

+If you say... "Mine is the best wine of the world", just tell me how you did,

+and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better.

+And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to

+create an even better one.

+That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand.

+> I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the

+> GPL concept ,

+> (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) ,

+> but

+> since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL

+> detractors .

+> Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will .

+

+Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more

+secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to

+forbid people to copy and share apps.

+> I realize i might be removed from the list after that ,

+> but I don't think it will happen .

+

+GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions.

+> Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't

+> be there if not)

+

+You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about

+ethics.

+REgards,

+ Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin

+nuclear cia fbi spy password code encrypt president bomb iran irak korea cuba

+Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna

+ -- Echelon must die --

+</pre>

+