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GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big, +great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such +project as mine is without GPL. + +GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you +get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/ + +><i> Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable +</I>><i> company +</I>><i> protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note +</I>><i> that I'm in no way related to MS . +</I>><i> Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism +</I>><i> died +</I>><i> out of realism ? +</I> +GPL is not about companies, but about users. +GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work. + +I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because: +1) It make faster the development. +2) The user base is also developers base +3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier. +4) Port to other OS are almost automatic. +5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game ) + +Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things??? + + +><i> Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage' +</I>><i> methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever +</I>><i> thought +</I>><i> that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable +</I>><i> way of +</I>><i> thinking and only fools rush in . +</I> +Man... you have serious problems with your ethics. +If you say... "Mine is the best wine of the world", just tell me how you did, +and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better. +And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to +create an even better one. +That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand. + +><i> I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the +</I>><i> GPL concept , +</I>><i> (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) , +</I>><i> but +</I>><i> since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL +</I>><i> detractors . +</I>><i> Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will . +</I> +Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more +secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to +forbid people to copy and share apps. + +><i> I realize i might be removed from the list after that , +</I>><i> but I don't think it will happen . +</I> +GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions. + +><i> Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't +</I>><i> be there if not) +</I> +You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about +ethics. + +REgards, + + Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin + +nuclear cia fbi spy password code encrypt president bomb iran irak korea cuba +Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna + + -- Echelon must die -- + +</pre> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI> Previous message: <A HREF="000467.html">[Nel] Snowballs building problem</A></li> + <LI> Next message: <A HREF="000458.html">[Nel] [Flame][Offtopic] Congratulations + concerns</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#455">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#455">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#455">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#455">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> +</body></html> |