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<H1>[Nel] [Flame][Offtopic] Congratulations + concerns</H1>
<B>elijah wright</B>
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<I>Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:57:10 -0400 (EDT)</I>
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could the GPL bigots and zealots please find something else to do with
their time? you're wasting a lot of energy on something that is
well-understood and needs very little additional explanation.
elijah
><i> > Software code in itself is not that important thing when GPL is
</I>><i> > concerned,
</I>><i> > and beeing able to read it and extract the major concepts of a software
</I>><i> > is
</I>><i> > the great thing : u always proceed with reverse engineering , - the
</I>><i> > ever
</I>><i> > coming question how do they do that - even when using software like ...
</I>><i> > those which don't provide source code .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> You didn't understand it...
</I>><i> GPL is not about reading others code... but giving you the freedom to copy,
</I>><i> modify and resuse it under the GPL License.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > That's why GPL is a bad trick to minor companies and therefore for
</I>><i> > individuals :
</I>><i> > releasing code shows the overall software architecture , may let u get
</I>><i> > insights
</I>><i> > about hardcore coded sections and definitively unprotects the source
</I>><i> > providers .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> No, because all the code is under the GPL.
</I>><i> If you read it, and code it on your way, then you could set whatever license you
</I>><i> want... it is up to your ethical being to say if you use GPL or not.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Good and Exceptionnal concepts are quickly analysed (you always need to
</I>><i> > understand
</I>><i> > the philosophy that drives a software architecture to be able to use it)
</I>><i> > So major companies will reuse GPLed code that much faster than minor
</I>><i> > entities
</I>><i> > - as far as software production is concerned -
</I>><i> > I think that instead of promoting talents ,GPL comes with a global
</I>><i> > leverage tendance .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> You are totally wrong... GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big,
</I>><i> great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such
</I>><i> project as mine is without GPL.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you
</I>><i> get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable
</I>><i> > company
</I>><i> > protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note
</I>><i> > that I'm in no way related to MS .
</I>><i> > Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism
</I>><i> > died
</I>><i> > out of realism ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> GPL is not about companies, but about users.
</I>><i> GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because:
</I>><i> 1) It make faster the development.
</I>><i> 2) The user base is also developers base
</I>><i> 3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier.
</I>><i> 4) Port to other OS are almost automatic.
</I>><i> 5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things???
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage'
</I>><i> > methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever
</I>><i> > thought
</I>><i> > that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable
</I>><i> > way of
</I>><i> > thinking and only fools rush in .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Man... you have serious problems with your ethics.
</I>><i> If you say... "Mine is the best wine of the world", just tell me how you did,
</I>><i> and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better.
</I>><i> And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to
</I>><i> create an even better one.
</I>><i> That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the
</I>><i> > GPL concept ,
</I>><i> > (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) ,
</I>><i> > but
</I>><i> > since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL
</I>><i> > detractors .
</I>><i> > Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more
</I>><i> secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to
</I>><i> forbid people to copy and share apps.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > I realize i might be removed from the list after that ,
</I>><i> > but I don't think it will happen .
</I>><i>
</I>><i> GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't
</I>><i> > be there if not)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about
</I>><i> ethics.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> REgards,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin
</I>><i>
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</I>><i> Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna
</I>><i>
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