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+ elijah wright

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+<PRE>

+could the GPL bigots and zealots please find something else to do with

+their time? you're wasting a lot of energy on something that is

+well-understood and needs very little additional explanation.

+elijah

+> > Software code in itself is not that important thing when GPL is

+> > concerned,

+> > and beeing able to read it and extract the major concepts of a software

+> > is

+> > the great thing : u always proceed with reverse engineering , - the

+> > ever

+> > coming question how do they do that - even when using software like ...

+> > those which don't provide source code .

+>

+> You didn't understand it...

+> GPL is not about reading others code... but giving you the freedom to copy,

+> modify and resuse it under the GPL License.

+>

+> > That's why GPL is a bad trick to minor companies and therefore for

+> > individuals :

+> > releasing code shows the overall software architecture , may let u get

+> > insights

+> > about hardcore coded sections and definitively unprotects the source

+> > providers .

+>

+> No, because all the code is under the GPL.

+> If you read it, and code it on your way, then you could set whatever license you

+> want... it is up to your ethical being to say if you use GPL or not.

+>

+> > Good and Exceptionnal concepts are quickly analysed (you always need to

+> > understand

+> > the philosophy that drives a software architecture to be able to use it)

+> > So major companies will reuse GPLed code that much faster than minor

+> > entities

+> > - as far as software production is concerned -

+> > I think that instead of promoting talents ,GPL comes with a global

+> > leverage tendance .

+>

+> You are totally wrong... GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big,

+> great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such

+> project as mine is without GPL.

+>

+> GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you

+> get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/

+>

+> > Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable

+> > company

+> > protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note

+> > that I'm in no way related to MS .

+> > Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism

+> > died

+> > out of realism ?

+>

+> GPL is not about companies, but about users.

+> GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work.

+>

+> I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because:

+> 1) It make faster the development.

+> 2) The user base is also developers base

+> 3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier.

+> 4) Port to other OS are almost automatic.

+> 5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game )

+>

+> Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things???

+>

+> > Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage'

+> > methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever

+> > thought

+> > that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable

+> > way of

+> > thinking and only fools rush in .

+>

+> Man... you have serious problems with your ethics.

+> If you say... "Mine is the best wine of the world", just tell me how you did,

+> and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better.

+> And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to

+> create an even better one.

+> That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand.

+>

+> > I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the

+> > GPL concept ,

+> > (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) ,

+> > but

+> > since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL

+> > detractors .

+> > Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will .

+>

+> Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more

+> secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to

+> forbid people to copy and share apps.

+>

+> > I realize i might be removed from the list after that ,

+> > but I don't think it will happen .

+>

+> GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions.

+>

+> > Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't

+> > be there if not)

+>

+> You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about

+> ethics.

+>

+> REgards,

+>

+> Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin

+>

+> nuclear cia fbi spy password code encrypt president bomb iran irak korea cuba

+> Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna

+>

+> -- Echelon must die --

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