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+ <B>elijah wright</B>
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+ <I>Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:57:10 -0400 (EDT)</I>
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+could the GPL bigots and zealots please find something else to do with
+their time? you're wasting a lot of energy on something that is
+well-understood and needs very little additional explanation.
+
+elijah
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Software code in itself is not that important thing when GPL is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; concerned,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and beeing able to read it and extract the major concepts of a software
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the great thing : u always proceed with reverse engineering , - the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ever
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; coming question how do they do that - even when using software like ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; those which don't provide source code .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You didn't understand it...
+</I>&gt;<i> GPL is not about reading others code... but giving you the freedom to copy,
+</I>&gt;<i> modify and resuse it under the GPL License.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's why GPL is a bad trick to minor companies and therefore for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; individuals :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; releasing code shows the overall software architecture , may let u get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; insights
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about hardcore coded sections and definitively unprotects the source
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; providers .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, because all the code is under the GPL.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you read it, and code it on your way, then you could set whatever license you
+</I>&gt;<i> want... it is up to your ethical being to say if you use GPL or not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Good and Exceptionnal concepts are quickly analysed (you always need to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; understand
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the philosophy that drives a software architecture to be able to use it)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So major companies will reuse GPLed code that much faster than minor
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; entities
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - as far as software production is concerned -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think that instead of promoting talents ,GPL comes with a global
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; leverage tendance .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You are totally wrong... GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big,
+</I>&gt;<i> great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such
+</I>&gt;<i> project as mine is without GPL.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you
+</I>&gt;<i> get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; company
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that I'm in no way related to MS .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; died
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; out of realism ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GPL is not about companies, but about users.
+</I>&gt;<i> GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) It make faster the development.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) The user base is also developers base
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) Port to other OS are almost automatic.
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things???
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thought
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thinking and only fools rush in .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Man... you have serious problems with your ethics.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you say... &quot;Mine is the best wine of the world&quot;, just tell me how you did,
+</I>&gt;<i> and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better.
+</I>&gt;<i> And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to
+</I>&gt;<i> create an even better one.
+</I>&gt;<i> That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GPL concept ,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) ,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; detractors .
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more
+</I>&gt;<i> secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to
+</I>&gt;<i> forbid people to copy and share apps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I realize i might be removed from the list after that ,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but I don't think it will happen .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be there if not)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about
+</I>&gt;<i> ethics.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> REgards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nuclear cia fbi spy password code encrypt president bomb iran irak korea cuba
+</I>&gt;<i> Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- Echelon must die --
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