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GPL allow us the common user to join and build a big, +</I>><i> great product. From my personal experience, I could have never build such +</I>><i> project as mine is without GPL. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GPL promote talents as everyone learn fasters, so yes it do a leverage, but you +</I>><i> get a better level that those close source fanatic. :-/ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Great support is provided to software users , but anyway , any reliable +</I>><i> > company +</I>><i> > protects its sources ( Nevrax Executives don ot read that ). Please note +</I>><i> > that I'm in no way related to MS . +</I>><i> > Isn't GPL the biggest break to creativity we ever seen since communism +</I>><i> > died +</I>><i> > out of realism ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GPL is not about companies, but about users. +</I>><i> GPL means to refuse to a lot of rights so that your users can share your work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I suppose that Nevrax is using GPL because: +</I>><i> 1) It make faster the development. +</I>><i> 2) The user base is also developers base +</I>><i> 3) The open architecture means bugs are found faster and easier. +</I>><i> 4) Port to other OS are almost automatic. +</I>><i> 5) Personal Challenge ( 1st commercial GPL game ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why in the hell people thing that Communism, Jew or Gay are bad things??? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Would GPL minds expect great french wine caves to make their 'elevage' +</I>><i> > methods publically available - I love great wines - , but who ever +</I>><i> > thought +</I>><i> > that we would get better wine through that way , that's not a reliable +</I>><i> > way of +</I>><i> > thinking and only fools rush in . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Man... you have serious problems with your ethics. +</I>><i> If you say... "Mine is the best wine of the world", just tell me how you did, +</I>><i> and I will do one better. What we have? A wine that is better than the better. +</I>><i> And as my way is not secret and open and free to use, someone will use it to +</I>><i> create an even better one. +</I>><i> That is what GPL is about, only fools don't understand. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I don't want to minimize the brightness of people who go promoting the +</I>><i> > GPL concept , +</I>><i> > (I 've the reputation to use my mind in very efficient ways though ) , +</I>><i> > but +</I>><i> > since I'm tightened to realism in my comapany , I totally agree with GPL +</I>><i> > detractors . +</I>><i> > Privacy is definitively needed or the world dies out of any will . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, Your world will die, because a new one will appear where there is no more +</I>><i> secrets, where you won't be able to sell ideas, where you won't be allowed to +</I>><i> forbid people to copy and share apps. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I realize i might be removed from the list after that , +</I>><i> > but I don't think it will happen . +</I>><i> +</I>><i> GPL people is different. We tollerate different opinions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Back to development and implementation , lots of to do ahead (I wouldn't +</I>><i> > be there if not) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You are really inside... you should go back to school and learn something about +</I>><i> ethics. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> REgards, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Miguel Angel Blanch Lardin +</I>><i> +</I>><i> nuclear cia fbi spy password code encrypt president bomb iran irak korea cuba +</I>><i> Ala yihad mosad kgb free freedom human rights yugoslavia kosovo ebola dna +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- Echelon must die -- +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Nel mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +-- + + +-- +$ chown us:us yourbase -R + + + +</pre> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI> Previous message: <A HREF="000455.html">[Nel] [Flame][Offtopic] Congratulations + concerns</A></li> + <LI> Next message: <A HREF="000459.html">[Nel] [Flame][Offtopic] Congratulations + concerns</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#458">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#458">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#458">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#458">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> +</body></html> |