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+ <B>david.belius@chello.se</B>
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+ <I>Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:10:42 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+Why haven't you said that you have example game data up?!?
+
+When i tried to open the .dsw's VC++ would just say that it was a &quot;Empty
+workspce&quot; with &quot;0 projects&quot;.
+The reason for this was that all the VC++ files from the CVS are in UNIX
+format, i.e. the linefeeds are messed up.
+You should proboblay put a notice in the &quot;Install&quot; file about it.
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+ <B>Vincent Archer</B>
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+ <I>Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:56:19 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>According to <A HREF="mailto:david.belius@chello.se">david.belius@chello.se</A>:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> Why haven't you said that you have example game data up?!?
+</I>
+We're still trying to finish the complete packaging for the 0.2 version
+(i.e. the first running prototype). And finding a machine to run an
+&quot;official&quot; server here for those who can't run server and client at home.
+
+The big announce will be made as soon as we've got time to polish that
+(and we'll probably open a download area so people without CVS can get
+ full packages at key points)
+
+&gt;<i> The reason for this was that all the VC++ files from the CVS are in UNIX
+</I>&gt;<i> format, i.e. the linefeeds are messed up.
+</I>
+The CVS tools should &quot;properly&quot; convert text files between unix/dos
+linefeed conventions. We're using WinCVS 1.1 here, and the files are
+correctly formatted while working on a windows client, and back to LF when
+commited.
+
+&gt;<i> You should proboblay put a notice in the &quot;Install&quot; file about it.
+</I>
+We'll put a Caveat there.
+
+Oh, and by the way, happy new millenium all!
+--
+Vincent Archer Email: <A HREF="mailto:archer@nevrax.com">archer@nevrax.com</A>
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+Nevrax France. Off on the yellow brick road we go!
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+ <B>Nevrax</B>
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+ TITLE="[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)">nevrax@bernard-hugueney.org</A><BR>
+ <I>Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:14:04 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi, and happy new millenium to everyone!
+First I'd like to say that I'm gratly impressed by your work!
+So please do not take my comments as hard critcisms...
+
+You seem to be building everything from scratch while a quick search
+at sourceforge.net for MMORPG seems to suggest that there are plenty
+of already available material. You say that you had to work at your own
+(impressive) speed and did not want to hijack an existing project...
+But you seem to give up quite easly to good part of the GPL, you could have
+forked an existing project: the maintainer would hold no grudge against you
+as you would not take any of his/her volonteers but instead bring your team
+to some work he/she could also benefit.
+Even for low-level, everyday use classes, you seem to always invent your
+own (callbacks, smart pointers and sockets come to mind).
+I understand that your code is (honestly !) of far better quality than the
+average available crap (I also find myself to rewrite much of the code that
+I'm supposed to used) but there are exceptions (libsigc++ or any stuff from
+www.boost.org for exemple). I just hope that nevrax does not lose time because
+of a Not Invented Here syndrom...
+&gt;<i>From the docs online I had even the impression that you wanted to use you own
+</I>custom scripting language (for ai I think). What is wrong with Python ?
+I even thought that the stackless (especially microthreads) would be nice
+for massively numerous agents :-)
+
+
+By the way, I'm impressed by that amount of work already done, how many of
+the mythical month-man have you put in current cvs ?
+
+It is not often that I can build source code so easly on my alpha!
+You bug-fixes were really fast... (I mean FAST!)
+
+For your information, on a Debian woody, one should 'apt-get install'
+the following packages (might go in a README or INSTALL):
+automake
+libtool
+libstlport-dev
+truetype2-dev
+bison
+flex
+libfreetype6-dev
+xlibmesa-dev
+
+beta-builder, soon beta testerly yours,
+
+Bernard
+(typing startx right now to see the beast)
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+ <B>sameh chafik Pro</B>
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+ TITLE="[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)">chafik@nevrax.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:38:52 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello, what you say is very interesting and I understand question let me
+answer to your python question you say
+
+&gt;<i>From the docs online I had even the impression that you wanted to use you
+</I>own
+&gt;<i>custom scripting language (for ai I think). What is wrong with Python ?
+</I>&gt;<i>I even thought that the stackless (especially microthreads) would be nice
+</I>&gt;<i>for massively numerous agents :-)
+</I>
+Python is a very good script language, I used it a lot for many work and i
+know it quite well, but if we use a custom scripting language that doesn't
+mean that we'll use it exclusively. On the contrary the script will allow a
+good opening to use any external script languag and we encourage that. Note
+that Nel script is an script for write agent and is an agent ortiented
+language we desigined to lighten the design of agents and game desigin
+code.
+And it seem to be more heavy to write the Python agent interface instead of
+write the custom Nel script, due mainly to the lack of means to write agents
+connection in a classical language and secondly the need to rewirte C++ code
+for the python interface.
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+ <B>Olivier Lejade</B>
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+ TITLE="[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)">lejade@nevrax.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:54:54 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi and Happy New Year to all NeLers !
+
+Bernard: Thanks for your comments.
+It's always nice to hear that kind of stuff. :)
+
+At 09:14 PM 1/3/01 +0100, you wrote:
+&gt;<i>any stuff from
+</I>&gt;<i>www.boost.org
+</I>
+We've been trying to reach boost.org since we saw your comment in the bug
+tracking system, but it doesn't seem to respond... :(
+
+Also, would you mind configuring your email to display your name instead of
+&quot;Nevrax&quot; ? It's a bit unsetteling...
+
+Thanks !
+
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+<PRE>Hello and thank you for your post.
+
+First of all, we had the problem to know which external copyleft libraries
+we could
+use in our project. We looked at libraries such as ACE (for sockets),
+ClanLib (for
+system init), libsock++ (for sockets too), SDL and so on, but the problem
+was that these libraries did too much things or not enough. If a library
+does only a few things, we can rewrite it very quickly (with, why not,
+copy/paste)
+because we want the install very easy to do. If the user has to find and
+install
+10 libraries before starting the NeL compilation, he surely gives up. When
+the
+library does too much stuff, it often doesn't do it in the same way we want
+to do it,
+and we can only reuse a few part of the library. And in this case, it's sad
+to compile
+during 1 hour an external library for only reusing only a few functions. We
+prefer copy/pasting
+these parts directly in our lib.
+
+&gt;<i> I understand that your code is (honestly !) of far better quality than the
+</I>&gt;<i> average available crap (I also find myself to rewrite much of the code
+</I>that
+&gt;<i> I'm supposed to used) but there are exceptions (libsigc++ or any stuff
+</I>from
+&gt;<i> www.boost.org for exemple). I just hope that nevrax does not lose time
+</I>because
+&gt;<i> of a Not Invented Here syndrom...
+</I>
+We'll take a look on libsigc++ and boost. we don't reinvent every thing, we
+only reuse code
+from other libraries but we don't include the entire libraries.
+
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+---
+lead programmer / nevrax.com
+icq#: 6870415
+homepage: <A HREF="http://ace.planet-d.net">http://ace.planet-d.net</A>
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+ <B>Bernard Hugueney</B>
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+ <I>Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:42:22 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+You really deserve the responsiveness award !
+
+* Olivier Lejade &lt;<A HREF="mailto:lejade@nevrax.com">lejade@nevrax.com</A>&gt; [010104 11:04]:
+&gt;<i> Hi and Happy New Year to all NeLers !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bernard: Thanks for your comments.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's always nice to hear that kind of stuff. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At 09:14 PM 1/3/01 +0100, you wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;any stuff from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;www.boost.org
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've been trying to reach boost.org since we saw your comment in the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> tracking system, but it doesn't seem to respond... :(
+</I>My bad luck :-( It's the first time that it's down so long since I know it.
+I'm on their mailing list so I should know soon what is wrong.
+(While typing this mail I read
+
+ &gt;The web site should now be available at 64.226.201.52
+ &gt;
+ &gt;The DNS change to resolve boost.org to that address has been submitted to
+ &gt;Network Solutions. I have no idea how long they will take to process it.
+ &gt;
+on the mailing list, will teach them not to deal with NS when they could use
+GANDI :-) )
+
+their cvs is host at sourceforge <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/</A>
+and they are an e-group www.egroups.com
+The very best C++ coders I've ever heard are there.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, would you mind configuring your email to display your name instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Nevrax&quot; ? It's a bit unsetteling...
+</I>Damn, I'll have to modify my nevrax account, sorry for the mistake,
+(modifs done)Is that ok now ?
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+ <B>Olivier Lejade</B>
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+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:58:27 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>At 11:42 AM 1/4/01 +0100, you wrote:
+&gt;<i>(modifs done)Is that ok now ?
+</I>Yes, thanks. And thanks for the pointer too !
+We'll have a look at it ASAP.
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+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:20:42 +0100</I>
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+<PRE> From the information gathered on
+
+<A HREF="http://64.226.201.52/more/lib_guide.htm##License">http://64.226.201.52/more/lib_guide.htm##License</A>
+
+there seems to be licensing incompatibilities between Boost librairies and
+the GPL.
+
+So I'm afraid this is a good reason why we can't use them in NeL, even
+though they appear to be of very good quality. :(
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+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 15:35:10 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>At 12:20 PM 1/4/01 +0100, you wrote:
+&gt;<i>there seems to be licensing incompatibilities between Boost librairies and
+</I>&gt;<i>the GPL.
+</I>
+And then again, maybe not. :)
+We're looking into it...
+
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+ <B>Bernard Hugueney</B>
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+<PRE>Olivier Lejade &lt;<A HREF="mailto:lejade@nevrax.com">lejade@nevrax.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> From the information gathered on
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://64.226.201.52/more/lib_guide.htm##License">http://64.226.201.52/more/lib_guide.htm##License</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>there seems to be licensing incompatibilities between Boost librairies and
+</I>&gt;<i>the GPL.
+</I>
+I think there is a misunderstanding. They exclude GPL and LGPL for
+library SUBMITTED. They want more of a BSD kind I think. You could not
+submit Nel for Boost acceptance,
+&lt;Quote&gt;
+ To avoid the frustration and wasted time of a proposed library being
+ rejected, it must meets these requirements:
+ * The license must meet the license requirements below. Restricted
+ licenses like the GPL and LGPL are not acceptable.
+ &lt;/Quote&gt;
+Note : &quot;proposed library&quot;
+No such restriction is imposed on code using a boost library: reading from
+their licenses requirement
+&lt;Quote&gt;
+ * Must grant permission to copy, use and modify the software for any
+ use (commercial and non-commercial) for no fee.
+&lt;/Quote&gt;
+
+You cannot say that you are not allowed to use a library with such a
+licence (Note: ANY USE ) !!!
+
+I don't want to force you to use anything from boost, I just would want you
+to dismiss it for bad reasons. As a C++ coder, I found it invaluable
+(just for fun you migh look at the lambda library at <A HREF="http://lambda.cs.utu.fi/">http://lambda.cs.utu.fi/</A>
+I never thought it would be possible). Of course their aim to &quot;perfection&quot;
+leads them to move slowly at time (network threads are not there yet...), and
+their advanced use of C++ clashes with crappy compiler (VC++). But if you
+can use it, their stuff really shines. I have not tested their py_cpp
+c++ to python wrapper, but I though you might be interested.
+
+Happy coding !
+Bernard
+(kinda jealous not to code for my living)
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+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:15:31 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>At 06:54 PM 1/4/01 +0100, you wrote:
+&gt;<i>I think there is a misunderstanding. They exclude GPL and LGPL for
+</I>&gt;<i>library SUBMITTED. They want more of a BSD kind I think.
+</I>
+Yes, this is what I noticed afterwards. :P
+Hence my &quot;maybe not&quot; post.
+Anyways, thanks for the clarification and now that the license issue is
+cleared, rest assured we'll pay closer attentions to the libs.
+
+&gt;<i>I don't want to force you to use anything from boost, I just would want you
+</I>&gt;<i>to dismiss it for bad reasons.
+</I>
+Arg, it wasn't my intent !
+At first reading I just thought there was licensing compatibilities issues
+that prevented the use of the libs for GPL/LGP programs. My bad: I was
+wrong. But it sure would be nice to incorporate Boost stuff if we can !
+Actually, Cyrille (3D Lead) went to school with one of the Boost guys... :)
+
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+ <B>Michael Warnock</B>
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+ <I>Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:23:04 -0800</I>
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+<PRE>the debian packages for all requirements are installed- stlport has been
+installed from source over the debian version to get the nebula device
+(radonlabs.de) to work.
+
+
+c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I/usr/include/freetype2
+-I/usr/include/stlport -g -O2 -Wp,-MD,.deps/mini_col.pp -c mini_col.cpp
+-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mini_col.lo
+In file included from ../../include/nel/3d/mini_col.h:33,
+ from mini_col.cpp:26:
+../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h: In method `class
+NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::CIterator
+NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::erase(NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::CIterator)':
+../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h:402: parse error before `*'
+../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h: In method `void
+NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;NL3D::CMiniCol::CFace&gt;::selectAll()':
+
+any ideas?
+
+michael warnock
+in orbit entertainment
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+ <B>Cyril Corvazier</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I/usr/include/freetype2
+</I>&gt;<i> -I/usr/include/stlport -g -O2 -Wp,-MD,.deps/mini_col.pp -c mini_col.cpp
+</I>&gt;<i> -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mini_col.lo
+</I>&gt;<i> In file included from ../../include/nel/3d/mini_col.h:33,
+</I>&gt;<i> from mini_col.cpp:26:
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h: In method `class
+</I>&gt;<i> NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::CIterator
+</I>&gt;<i> NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::erase(NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;T&gt;::CIterator)':
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h:402: parse error before `*'
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../include/nel/3d/quad_grid.h: In method `void
+</I>&gt;<i> NL3D::CQuadGrid&lt;NL3D::CMiniCol::CFace&gt;::selectAll()':
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> any ideas?
+</I>
+This bug has been fixed yesterday evening. The cvs is synchronized at night.
+So if you update now, it should be ok.
+
+Thank you for the report.
+
+---
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+Lead 3d programmer
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+ <B>Vincent Archer</B>
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+ <I>Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:39:53 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>According to Bernard Hugueney:
+&gt;<i> I think there is a misunderstanding. They exclude GPL and LGPL for
+</I>&gt;<i> library SUBMITTED. They want more of a BSD kind I think. You could not
+</I>&gt;<i> submit Nel for Boost acceptance,
+</I>
+Well, the same problem applies in the reverse. Libraries in Boost are
+not covered by a GPL-style license. Which means that they cannot be
+lifted verbatim from the Boost collection and incorporated in ours
+without a lot of precautions.
+
+Just like someone cannot take a GPL piece of software and turn it into
+a BSD-licensed software, one cannot lift a BSD-style software and put it
+into a GPL project. The licenses are &quot;orthogonal&quot; in style, and you
+cannot decide on your own to alter the license; only the copyright owner
+may do so.
+
+The license styles from Boost (the ones I've looked at so far, boost.org
+is unresolvable at the moment) would prevent us from incoporating them
+in NeL. We *might* be able to use them side-by-side, asking people to get
+them (and provide mirrors) and compile them separately, but they cannot
+be *part* of NeL.
+
+&gt;<i> &lt;Quote&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> * Must grant permission to copy, use and modify the software for any
+</I>&gt;<i> use (commercial and non-commercial) for no fee.
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;/Quote&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You cannot say that you are not allowed to use a library with such a
+</I>&gt;<i> licence (Note: ANY USE ) !!!
+</I>
+The GPL is better worded in that regard; it says for no fee exceeding
+the cost of support and shipping (meaning I'm am not obliged to *pay* for
+*your* copy).
+
+&gt;<i> leads them to move slowly at time (network threads are not there yet...), and
+</I>&gt;<i> their advanced use of C++ clashes with crappy compiler (VC++). But if you
+</I>
+Well, we also have to use VC++. The compiler quirks may drive us crazy
+with all its &quot;let's not bother the developper with clarity, I'll guess
+what he wants to do&quot; philosophy, but there aren't many useful C++
+development environments when you're working on a Windows system.
+
+&gt;<i> Happy coding !
+</I>&gt;<i> Bernard
+</I>&gt;<i> (kinda jealous not to code for my living)
+</I>
+Many of us code for a living. We just don't code what we'd really love
+to code :)
+
+--
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+<PRE>According to Vincent Archer:
+&gt;<i> a BSD-licensed software, one cannot lift a BSD-style software and put it
+</I>&gt;<i> into a GPL project. The licenses are &quot;orthogonal&quot; in style, and you
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot decide on your own to alter the license; only the copyright owner
+</I>&gt;<i> may do so.
+</I>
+A little precision on this subject.
+
+I was about immediately bashed on the head for my old-timer attitudes.
+The arguments I raise mostly apply to the so-called &quot;original BSD
+license&quot;, which had relatively strict advertising clauses on it which
+are incompatible with GPL. But for some reason, my brain is still locked
+in the 10-years-ago mode, and I don't think I'll ever shake it out 'till
+retirement home.
+
+The recent BSD licenses let you mix things with GPL. So, we can't
+incorporate Boost libraries into NeL, but we can happily get them, and
+use them, just like we use FreeType and the like.
+
+--
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+</I>
+Thanx for the quick fix!
+
+here's another bug:
+same debian 2.2 (stlport 4.1 now)
+
+making the client:
+
+c++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/stlport -g -O2 -o client client.o
+language_interface.o login_interface.o move_listener.o pb_message_box.o
+player_view.o shards_list_interface.o zone_manager.o zone_search.o -lnelnet
+-lnelmisc -lnel3d -L/usr/lib -lfreetype -lstlport_gcc
+zone_manager.o: In function `NLMISC::IRunnable type_info function':
+/usr/include/stlport/iostream(.text+0x0): multiple definition of
+`NLMISC::IThread::create(NLMISC::IRunnable *)'
+client.o(.text+0x0):/usr/include/stlport/stl/_construct.h: first defined here
+collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
+make[2]: *** [client] Error 1
+
+we got all the servers running with code from the last hour or so.
+
+michael
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+ <I>Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:35:04 -0800</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+We're experimenting with NEL, great work :) We are
+developing an MMRPG called &quot;Warp Storm&quot; and subscribe
+to the Open Source development model. Our company
+and game is born from an GPL'ed project I've been
+leading since 1998 called Bang formerly known as
+JavaMOO. Now we have a funded development effort
+going and have offices in San Francisco and Reykjavík,
+Iceland.
+
+We are considering assigning few full time programmers
+helping expanding the NEL code-base.
+
+I've gathered that there is support for .3ds for objects
+and .bmp for textures. Is this correct?
+
+Is there any animation support?
+
+In what format is the landscape data tiles?
+
+Do you have an example of a config file for the
+client?
+
+What glues .3ds object files to the landscape
+data?
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert Viðar Bjarnason
+<A HREF="mailto:robofly@in-orbit.net">robofly@in-orbit.net</A>
+
+President, InOrbit Entertainment, Inc.
+<A HREF="http://www.in-orbit.net/">http://www.in-orbit.net/</A>
+<A HREF="http://this.is/bang/">http://this.is/bang/</A>
+
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+ <B>Cyril Corvazier</B>
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+ <I>Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:33:31 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi, and welcome on the NeL list.
+
+&gt;<i> I've gathered that there is support for .3ds for objects
+</I>&gt;<i> and .bmp for textures. Is this correct?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> In what format is the landscape data tiles?
+</I>
+&gt;<i> What glues .3ds object files to the landscape
+</I>&gt;<i> data?
+</I>
+NeL library supports only .tga file format and .dds (direct draw surface)
+for texture compression (DXTC1, 3 and 5).
+
+The NeL's way to load 3d data is the following:
+NeL only reads NeL binary files (like .shape, .bank or .zone). No support
+for .3ds files will be provided by Nevrax.
+The reason is .3ds is an old file format, and many new features simply don't
+exist in it. (vertex weigting, multiple UV by
+vertex, patches, vertex color ).
+It's easy to build and save NeL data. You only have to write a data
+converter or an export plugin for your
+3d editor linked with NeL. A paper about 'how to deal with NeL data' will
+come soon in the NeL documentation.
+
+At Nevrax, we use a set of crude plugins for 3dsmax builded with NeL, but we
+can't distribute them for the moment.
+
+&gt;<i> Is there any animation support?
+</I>
+Support for animation is planed for sure. Those features will be implemented
+in NeL:
+
+ * Hierarchical animations.
+ * Skinning (with T&amp;L support).
+ * Morphing (blend shape).
+ * IK solver (position constraints only).
+ * Animation layers (merge of weighted animations with IK constraints).
+
+&gt;<i> Do you have an example of a config file for the
+</I>&gt;<i> client?
+</I>
+I let my co-workers respond to this question.
+
+Thanks for your interest in the NeL project.
+---
+Cyril Corvazier
+Lead 3d programmer
+Nevrax France
+
+
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+I m one of those co-workers and I'll answer your last question :)
+
+&gt;<i> Do you have an example of a config file for the
+</I>&gt;<i> client?
+</I>
+yes we have example of config file.
+in the generated doc, here:
+<A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/docs/doxygen/nel/class_NLMISC__CConfigFile.html">http://www.nevrax.org/docs/doxygen/nel/class_NLMISC__CConfigFile.html</A>
+you ll find an example of config file and a sample of code that use it.
+
+we already use the config file in the client, look client.cpp and search
+CConfigFile ;-)
+
+it's really quite easy to use, not very flexible but the reason is that we
+use lex&amp;yacc so
+we can't do all we wanted (like rewrite config file)
+
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+---
+lead programmer / nevrax.com
+icq#: 6870415
+homepage: <A HREF="http://ace.planet-d.net">http://ace.planet-d.net</A>
+www.geek.com: GCS/E d- s+++: a-- C+++$ UL++ P- L+++&gt;+$ E+&gt;- W++ N+ o? K-
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+ <I>Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:15:48 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>hello again,
+
+Just a question, why do you want the client config file?
+The client automatically create the config file if the config file is not
+found.
+Anyway, you *can't* run the client because game data are not available for
+now.
+(you should wait few weeks ;-)
+
+vianney
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+<PRE>Hi Olivier,
+
+Monday, January 08, 2001, 3:08:59 AM, you wrote:
+OL&gt; How is your organisation working ? What is the task of each office ?
+OL&gt; How much funding did you receive ? Why did you head for San Fransisco ?
+
+Here is how our organization works:
+We have a management team of 8 people:
+President/Director, CFO, Producer, Lead World
+Builder/Lead Writer, Production Manager, VP of
+Computer Graphics, Lead Graphics Designer and
+Lead Animator.
+
+We have a Concept &amp; Illustration team of 6
+full time people. This team is creating the
+look of the Warp Storm universe.
+
+We have a Computer Graphics team of 5 full time
+people. This teams includes Donald Graham who
+did for an example the first 3D model of the
+International Space Station for NASA and Jim Citron
+who was the Technical Director for Tippett studios
+and worked for example on Starship Troopers,
+Armageddon and Godzilla.
+
+We have a Game Mechanics team of 3 full time
+people. This team is responsible for designed
+the complex skill based role-playing system
+for Warp Storm.
+
+We have programming team of 4 full time
+programmers. This team is currently focusing
+on the game mechanics and evaluating different
+Open Source technologies that we are considering
+for the Warp Storm platform.
+
+Currently we only have 3 employees in Reykjavík,
+Iceland. Our CFO, Lead Graphics Designer and
+Interface Designer are working out of Reykjavík
+the rest of the team is working out of San
+Francisco.
+
+We have received $760.000 in seed funding,
+this investments is all from Icelandic
+sources. We are in the progress of opening
+our 1st Round of financing and plan to raise
+$6.000.000 from sources here in the USA.
+
+The reason for why we choose San Francisco
+are: I worked here in 1996/1997 for a company
+now called <A HREF="http://www.smartvr.com/">http://www.smartvr.com/</A> and I
+made a lot of connections here then. It is
+relatively easy to get high quality illustrators
+and CG people here.
+
+OL&gt; That would be nice. We'd have to find a working methodology though: we
+OL&gt; didn't expect other gaming companies to jump in so soon, even though it
+OL&gt; was inevitable in the long term.
+
+We would very much like to figure out the best way for
+us to work together.
+
+OL&gt; How many programmers is there in your dev team ?
+
+We currently have only 4 programmers but we are looking
+for 2 right now and will be looking for over 10 when
+we receive our 1st round of financing.
+
+We have a prototype written in Java3D that has
+been active since 1998. We have a more recent prototype
+that helped us secure our seed funding written in C++
+that uses Crystal Space for the rendering part.
+
+Currently, Dmitry, our lead programmer is working on
+creating a prototype using NeL as the net platform and
+using the Nebula Device for 3D rendering. Nebula has a
+bunch of advanced 3D stuff, you can check it out at
+<A HREF="http://www.radonlabs.de/">http://www.radonlabs.de/</A> or
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/nebuladevice/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/nebuladevice/</A>
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert Viðar Bjarnason
+<A HREF="mailto:robofly@in-orbit.net">robofly@in-orbit.net</A>
+
+President, InOrbit Entertainment, Inc.
+<A HREF="http://www.in-orbit.net">http://www.in-orbit.net</A>
+
+
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+
+Monday, January 08, 2001, 3:15:48 AM, you wrote:
+VL&gt; Just a question, why do you want the client config file?
+VL&gt; The client automatically create the config file if the config file is not
+VL&gt; found.
+
+I just wanted it to see what initial configuration
+elements you were using. I wanted this to gain
+better understanding of the NeL platform. I had already
+taken a look at the link you sent me earlier and
+it does not reveal anything about the actual content
+of the config file.
+
+VL&gt; Anyway, you *can't* run the client because game data are not available for
+VL&gt; now.
+VL&gt; (you should wait few weeks ;-)
+
+Why did you decide to release NeL as an Open Source
+project on the Internet if there is no way to
+run it once compiled?
+
+We have a lot of game assets ready that we would
+love to test out in the NeL engine. We use mostly
+Maya for our content but we have a couple of 3D Max
+licences as well. Our content currently includes;
+textured characters with animations, buildings,
+props, height maps and landscape textures.
+
+Warm regard,
+Róbert Viðar Bjarnason
+<A HREF="mailto:robofly@in-orbit.net">robofly@in-orbit.net</A>
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+
+Thanks for the info :)
+
+Monday, January 08, 2001, 2:33:31 AM, you wrote:
+CC&gt; At Nevrax, we use a set of crude plugins for 3dsmax builded with NeL, but we
+CC&gt; can't distribute them for the moment.
+
+Are those plugins going to be Open Source? If not, is there
+any change of buying them of you, even if they are in a
+crude stage?
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert
+
+
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+ <B>Valignat Cedric</B>
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+ <I>Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:37:31 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Everybody,
+
+
+Yesterday we've integrated the AI code to NeL and it breaks the GNU/Linux
+compilation :-(
+
+We are working on it and it should be fix soon ...
+
+
+Sorry about that,
+
+Cedric.
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+ <B>Valignat Cedric</B>
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+ <I>Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:43:26 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Bernard,
+
+Nevrax wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not often that I can build source code so easly on my alpha!
+</I>
+Nice to ear that :-)
+
+&gt;<i> You bug-fixes were really fast... (I mean FAST!)
+</I>
+My response wasn't that fast ... sorry :-)
+
+
+&gt;<i> For your information, on a Debian woody, one should 'apt-get install'
+</I>&gt;<i> the following packages (might go in a README or INSTALL):
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+I updated the NeL's INSTALL file as you suggest it ... thanks.
+
+
+Cedric.
+
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+ <I>Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:22:42 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello Robert,
+
+&gt;<i> I just wanted it to see what initial configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> elements you were using. I wanted this to gain
+</I>&gt;<i> better understanding of the NeL platform. I had already
+</I>&gt;<i> taken a look at the link you sent me earlier and
+</I>&gt;<i> it does not reveal anything about the actual content
+</I>&gt;<i> of the config file.
+</I>
+okay, next is the content of our current config file, hope it s what you
+wanted:
+---- start of client.cfg
+// CLIENT CONFIG FILE
+
+FullScreen = 1; // 1 = yes
+Width = 800;
+Height = 600;
+Depth = 32;
+Position = { 819.269836, -738.062500, 8.277040 }; // the last position on
+the world (just for prototype)
+Heading = { 0.882310, -0.470668, 0.0 }; // the last direction of the head
+Background = { 100, 100, 255 }; // color of the background (temporary, we
+wait the sky ;)
+DataPath = &quot;\\server\gamedata\data/; // path of where the data are
+FontPath = &quot;\\server\code\fonts\arialuni.ttf; // the font used in the
+client (will change)
+LanguageIndex = 1;
+LSHost = &quot;pc38&quot;; // our login service server
+Login = &quot;foo&quot;; // my login
+Password = &quot;bar&quot;; // ... i know, it s not crypted :(
+ShardIP = &quot;192.168.1.38&quot;; // the last selected shard
+CharacterIndex = 0; // the player character (between 2 possibilities)
+---- end of client.cfg
+
+&gt;<i> Why did you decide to release NeL as an Open Source
+</I>&gt;<i> project on the Internet if there is no way to
+</I>&gt;<i> run it once compiled?
+</I>
+Don't forget that it's a quite young project
+and we need time to give some examples and stuff.
+We are currently working on a small sample world to give the community
+something to kick around and showcase what NeL can do.
+We'll release it next week so please be a little patient.
+Of course this example will have nothing to do with our final game.
+Its main use is to help us to test our library and test our team production
+pipelines.
+
+But, as you said below, you could use NeL with your own data: you don't
+*have* to wait for us to provide it !
+
+&gt;<i> We have a lot of game assets ready that we would
+</I>&gt;<i> love to test out in the NeL engine. We use mostly
+</I>&gt;<i> Maya for our content but we have a couple of 3D Max
+</I>&gt;<i> licences as well. Our content currently includes;
+</I>&gt;<i> textured characters with animations, buildings,
+</I>&gt;<i> props, height maps and landscape textures.
+</I>
+Great! The only potential problem could be for exporting datas.
+But it would be neat if you wrote an export pluggin for Maya,
+and we'd love to have another example of a program using NeL.
+
+Best regards,
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+---
+lead programmer / nevrax.com
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+What version do i need?
+Could you write the software versions needed to build in the INSTALL files.
+
+--
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+François Périchon wrote:
+&gt;<i> It seems i need recent mesa3d libs to build NeL.
+</I>&gt;<i> What version do i need?
+</I>
+We are using Mesa 3.3 and we didn't test NeL with other versions yet.
+
+Could you tell us which version of Mesa you used, that could help us
+to have a better idea about the NeL compatibility ...
+
+&gt;<i> Could you write the software versions needed to build in the INSTALL files.
+</I>
+I updated the INSTALL file on that way ... it should be available on tonigth
+on the public CVS.
+
+Thanks,
+
+Cedric.
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+<PRE>In-Reply-To: &lt;<A HREF="mailto:20010111171840.A1365@nevrax.com">20010111171840.A1365@nevrax.com</A>&gt;; from <A HREF="mailto:valignat@nevrax.com">valignat@nevrax.com</A> on Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 05:18:40PM +0100
+* Valignat Cedric &lt;<A HREF="mailto:valignat@nevrax.com">valignat@nevrax.com</A>&gt; [010111 19:18]:
+
+&gt;<i> Hello Francois,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FranBmPis PBqSichon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems i need recent mesa3d libs to build NeL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What version do i need?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are using Mesa 3.3 and we didn't test NeL with other versions yet.
+</I>
+I must say that for once, Debian unstable is not up to date.
+I've been left behind recently, even with latest (today's!) xlibmesa-dev :-(
+Just when I bought those extra 128 Mo that 'd have allowed me to compile Nel
+AND move he mouse cursor :-(
+And lanch ddd on the servers because they segfaulted on startup here :-(
+
+I've no relevent version number as debian seem to sync them with XFree's:
+
+bubastis:~# dpkg -p xlibmesa-dev |fgrep Version
+Version: 4.0.2-1
+
+bubastis:~# dpkg -L xlibmesa-dev |fgrep glext.h
+/usr/include/GL/glext.h
+but
+bubastis:~# fgrep GL_GLEXT_VERSION `dpkg -L xlibmesa-dev |fgrep glext.h`
+#define GL_GLEXT_VERSION 6
+which does not plese Nel :-((
+
+Not your fault As I think one ought to be on the bleeding edge when developping
+or your behind when releasing...
+
+I hope to catch up soon...
+
+Bernard
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+<PRE>Hello Bernard,
+
+Bernard Hugueney wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I must say that for once, Debian unstable is not up to date.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been left behind recently, even with latest (today's!) xlibmesa-dev :-(
+</I>
+Ouch !...
+
+&gt;<i> Just when I bought those extra 128 Mo that 'd have allowed me to compile Nel
+</I>&gt;<i> AND move he mouse cursor :-(
+</I>
+How much RAM did you have, before, to run X ? :-P
+
+&gt;<i> And lanch ddd on the servers because they segfaulted on startup here :-(
+</I>
+Did you get any error messages ?
+
+The servers are, actually, made in a way that they print an error message and
+create a core files if there is a problem, that's help us to debug them ...
+
+&gt;<i> I've no relevent version number as debian seem to sync them with XFree's:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bubastis:~# dpkg -p xlibmesa-dev |fgrep Version
+</I>&gt;<i> Version: 4.0.2-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> bubastis:~# dpkg -L xlibmesa-dev |fgrep glext.h
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/include/GL/glext.h
+</I>&gt;<i> but
+</I>&gt;<i> bubastis:~# fgrep GL_GLEXT_VERSION `dpkg -L xlibmesa-dev |fgrep glext.h`
+</I>&gt;<i> #define GL_GLEXT_VERSION 6
+</I>&gt;<i> which does not plese Nel :-((
+</I>
+The Mesa's rpm that we used is the 3.3-5 version and it use the version 7
+of GL/glext.h. We didn't test it with any other version of mesa yet, but you
+could try to download the lastest version of GL/glext.h at
+<A HREF="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h">http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h</A> and recompile NeL.
+
+An other solution is to remove the GL_GLEXT_VERSION checking in the
+configure.in file and in the src/3d/driver/opengl/driver_opengl_extension.h
+file and try to recompile NeL ...
+
+I hope that could help you to fixed your problem ...
+
+
+Cedric.
+
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+<PRE>Hi Vianney,
+
+VC&gt; okay, next is the content of our current config file, hope it s what you
+VC&gt; wanted:
+
+Thanks :) I like the way you have the config files
+created automaticly, I just hadn't looked in the
+right place...
+
+VC&gt; Don't forget that it's a quite young project
+VC&gt; and we need time to give some examples and stuff.
+VC&gt; We are currently working on a small sample world to give the community
+VC&gt; something to kick around and showcase what NeL can do.
+VC&gt; We'll release it next week so please be a little patient.
+VC&gt; Of course this example will have nothing to do with our final game.
+VC&gt; Its main use is to help us to test our library and test our team production
+VC&gt; pipelines.
+
+I appolagice for my tone of voice before, I really
+appricate your effort and think your doing a great
+job.
+
+VC&gt; Great! The only potential problem could be for exporting datas.
+VC&gt; But it would be neat if you wrote an export pluggin for Maya,
+VC&gt; and we'd love to have another example of a program using NeL.
+
+We've already started to work on a plugin, written in MEL Script,
+using info gathered from the source code distribution.
+Do you have any formal documents on the different fileformats?
+
+Warm regards,
+Robert
+
+
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I've been looking into writing a Maya plugin.
+What I understand so far is the following,
+please correct me if I'm wrong.
+
+-There are no specific fileformats for NeL,
+only different serialized objects like
+CZone, CShape(Stream), CMesh and others.
+
+-We would probably use the Maya API and
+write a C++ plugin for Maya instead of
+a MEL script.
+
+-I will have to convert the NURBS based
+Maya curves into 3DSMax based Bezier
+Pathces.
+
+This is really exciting. Now we can
+really integrate functions in Maya
+for bump-mapping and things like that.
+And this will be a plugin that creates
+ready to use NeL objects instead of
+some kind of an endless conversion
+madness :)
+
+If anybody has some code already written
+for either the Maya or NeL part of such
+a plugin, please let me know. Our plugin
+will will be released under the GPL.
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert
+
+
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+<PRE>I used the mesa 3.2 which comes with the unstable debian.
+On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:18:40 Valignat Cedric wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello Francois,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> François Périchon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems i need recent mesa3d libs to build NeL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What version do i need?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are using Mesa 3.3 and we didn't test NeL with other versions yet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you tell us which version of Mesa you used, that could help us
+</I>&gt;<i> to have a better idea about the NeL compatibility ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could you write the software versions needed to build in the INSTALL
+</I>&gt;<i> files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I updated the INSTALL file on that way ... it should be available on
+</I>&gt;<i> tonigth
+</I>&gt;<i> on the public CVS.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cedric.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Nel mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
+François &quot;Le Barjack&quot; Périchon
+<A HREF="mailto:francois.perichon@inzebox.com">francois.perichon@inzebox.com</A>
+<A HREF="mailto:lebarjack@inzebox.com">lebarjack@inzebox.com</A>
+36, rue de la clef
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+France
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+Fax : +33 (0)3 20 55 55 92
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+<PRE>Hi,
+I reported my disappointment in a previous post when I saw that up to date
+ unstable Debian seemed not current enough for NeL.
+I decided to get the latest release from www.mesa3d.org.
+It was 3.4 but include/GL/glext.h seemed not current enough according to
+the test of GL_GLEXT_VERSION :-(( (I have 6, requested is 7)
+So I decided to browse the CVS (<A HREF="http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Mesa/include/GL/glext.h?rev=1.31&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=mesa3d">http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/Mesa/include/GL/glext.h?rev=1.31&amp;content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&amp;cvsroot=mesa3d</A> ) and here is what I found:
+
+Revision 1.31, Sat Jan 6 22:46:13 2001 UTC (10 days, 1 hour ago) by
+ gareth
+ Branch: MAIN
+ CVS Tags: HEAD
+ Changes since 1.30: +9 -4 lines
+Implementation of GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3.
+...
+ /* Header file version number, required by OpenGL ABI for Linux */
+#define GL_GLEXT_VERSION 6
+
+???
+You guys are not up to date! you are ahead of time :-)
+
+Btw, I tried to fake a correct GL_GLEXT_VERSION but compile fails later
+:<i>-(((
+</I>
+I hope to be able to compile NeL again soon ...
+
+Bernard
+
+
+* Fran?ois P?richon &lt;<A HREF="mailto:francois.perichon@inzebox.com">francois.perichon@inzebox.com</A>&gt; [010115 18:41]:
+&gt;<i> I used the mesa 3.2 which comes with the unstable debian.
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:18:40 Valignat Cedric wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello Francois,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; François Périchon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It seems i need recent mesa3d libs to build NeL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What version do i need?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We are using Mesa 3.3 and we didn't test NeL with other versions yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could you tell us which version of Mesa you used, that could help us
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to have a better idea about the NeL compatibility ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Could you write the software versions needed to build in the INSTALL
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; files.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I updated the INSTALL file on that way ... it should be available on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tonigth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the public CVS.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cedric.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> François &quot;Le Barjack&quot; Périchon
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="mailto:francois.perichon@inzebox.com">francois.perichon@inzebox.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="mailto:lebarjack@inzebox.com">lebarjack@inzebox.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 36, rue de la clef
+</I>&gt;<i> 59800 Lille
+</I>&gt;<i> France
+</I>&gt;<i> Tel : +33 (0)3 20 55 55 90
+</I>&gt;<i> Fax : +33 (0)3 20 55 55 92
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:lecroart%40nevrax.com"
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+ <I>Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:01:06 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+&gt;<i> /* Header file version number, required by OpenGL ABI for Linux */
+</I>&gt;<i> #define GL_GLEXT_VERSION 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ???
+</I>&gt;<i> You guys are not up to date! you are ahead of time :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Btw, I tried to fake a correct GL_GLEXT_VERSION but compile fails later
+</I>&gt;<i> :-(((
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope to be able to compile NeL again soon ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bernard
+</I>
+In fact, it's Mesa that is not synchronized with the official sgi
+extensions.
+You have to get the last glext.h from sgi:
+
+<A HREF="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h">http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h</A>
+
+and it will be ok (we ll add this to the INSTALL file)
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+---
+lead programmer / nevrax.com
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+<PRE>Hi,
+I finally made it with the mesa3D 3.3, the last glext.h from sgi, the
+correct stlport, and so on.
+I './configure' without any problems (I set the --with-stlport,
+--with-stllib, and th --with-python)
+When making the opengl driver i end with this error :
+
+In file included from driver_opengl.h:43,
+ from driver_opengl.cpp:45:
+./../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:264: anonymous class type not used to
+declare any objects
+./../../../include/nel/3d/material.h: In method `void
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::setDefault()':
+./../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:273: `union
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::{anonymous}' has no member named `OpRGB'
+./../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:274: `union
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::{anonymous}' has no member named `SrcArg0RGB'
+
+and this one :
+
+In file included from ../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:338,
+ from driver_opengl.h:43,
+ from driver_opengl.cpp:45:
+./../../../include/nel/3d/driver_material_inline.h: In method `void
+NL3D::CMaterial::texEnvOpRGB(unsigned int, NL3D::CMaterial::TTexOperator)':
+./../../../include/nel/3d/driver_material_inline.h:157: `union
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::{anonymous}' has no member named `OpRGB'
+./../../../include/nel/3d/driver_material_inline.h: In method `void
+NL3D::CMaterial::texEnvArg0RGB(unsigned int, NL3D::CMaterial::TTexSource,
+NL3D::CMaterial::TTexOperand)':
+
+
+What have i made wrong? Where this mysterious NL3D is defined?
+
+--
+François &quot;Le Barjack&quot; Périchon
+<A HREF="mailto:francois.perichon@inzebox.com">francois.perichon@inzebox.com</A>
+<A HREF="mailto:lebarjack@inzebox.com">lebarjack@inzebox.com</A>
+36, rue de la clef
+59800 Lille
+France
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+Fax : +33 (0)3 20 55 55 92
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+ <B>Vincent Archer</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:archer%40nevrax.com"
+ TITLE="[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out">archer@nevrax.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:49:11 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>We are proud to announce the release of the 0.1 version of the NeL
+framework. This framework comprises the NeL library, and a basic client
+and server source for a simple game called Snowballs. The CVS should be
+updated shortly, and the 0.1 release tagged. We are including the data
+files required for the game separately.
+
+If you are following the CVS regularly, you just have to update,
+download the data archive, compile and run. Otherwise, you may also
+download separately the source tree of the 0.1 release without using
+CVS.
+
+NB: The source archives are packages with CVS data, you may use unpack
+them and use then CVS to update.
+
+We do not provide a pre-built set of binaries, as the 0.1 release isn't
+really representative of the full technology we want to use. The server
+has been tested under Linux, and the client under Windows. If you want
+to use it, there is a demo server running here, on which the client
+connects by default.
+
+For any questions, we have opened a new mailing list dedicated to the
+Snowballs demo game, <A HREF="mailto:snowballs@nevrax.org">snowballs@nevrax.org</A> (see on the web site for
+a subscription page). Questions and reports about the client, server,
+or game data themselves should be directed there, while all discussions
+on the NeL library itself should remain under the <A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>
+original mailing list.
+
+The archives may be downloaded there from the main page:
+ <A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/">http://www.nevrax.org/</A>
+
+Note: The zip archive contains the source tree in DOS text format,
+whereas the tar.gz archives contains the source in Unix text format.
+Both should compile equally well, but one might be easier to edit on
+your system.
+
+See you on the snowfields :)
+
+--
+Vincent Archer Email: <A HREF="mailto:archer@nevrax.com">archer@nevrax.com</A>
+
+Nevrax France. Off on the yellow brick road we go!
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+ <B>Dim Segebart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:zager%40teleaction.com"
+ TITLE="[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out">zager@teleaction.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:17:13 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello to all !
+I just want to share some of my recent hints on building NeL for Win32
+platform with MC VC++ 6.0
+(Sorry for experienced developers familiar with Win32 development
+environment, may be someone else like me usually do work primarily under
+UNIX and very seldom under Win32)
+
+*** STLPort ***
+First problem is building STLPort.
+(first big problem is the size - You should have a plenty of free space on
+hard drive. After building, STLPORT occupies 377946112 bytes)
+For some reasons or other nmake
+doesn't work for me as expected (could be what Win32 also hate me as I
+hate Win32 ;)) It reports a lot of errors and exit.
+To solve this problem you can do File-&gt;Open STLport-4.0\src\vc6.mak and
+then do Build-&gt;build stlport.exe
+Finally, after 30 minutes of hard work (PIII500/256), you'll have .lib &amp; .dll &amp; .pdb
+files located at STLport-4.0\lib Manually copy .lib (and I think
+.pdb too) to VC default \lib location and don't forget to copy .dll
+files to some place where they could be found at runtime.
+
+*** FreeType 2 ***
+You need GNU Make 3.77 Link at FreeType site is broken
+Grab it from <A HREF="ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/freetype/contrib/win32/gnumake-win32.zip">ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/freetype/contrib/win32/gnumake-win32.zip</A>
+or any other place you want
+(<A HREF="http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&query=gnumake-win32.zip&doit=Search&type=Case+insensitive+multiple+substrings+search&hits=50&matches=&hitsprmatch=&limdom=&limpath=&hidepackages=on&hidedistfiles=on&hidefreebsd=on&hideopenbsd=on&hidenetbsd=on&hidelinux=on&f1=Count&f2=Mode&f3=Size&f4=Date&f5=Host&f6=Path&header=none&sort=none&trlen=20">http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&amp;query=gnumake-win32.zip&amp;doit=Search&amp;type=Case+insensitive+multiple+substrings+search&amp;hits=50&amp;matches=&amp;hitsprmatch=&amp;limdom=&amp;limpath=&amp;hidepackages=on&amp;hidedistfiles=on&amp;hidefreebsd=on&amp;hideopenbsd=on&amp;hidenetbsd=on&amp;hidelinux=on&amp;f1=Count&amp;f2=Mode&amp;f3=Size&amp;f4=Date&amp;f5=Host&amp;f6=Path&amp;header=none&amp;sort=none&amp;trlen=20</A>)
+You should have both path to GNU make and path to VC++ binaries as well
+to be included into your PATH environment variable
+next do:
+make setup visualc
+make
+copy freetype-2.0\obj\freetype.lib to VC++ default \lib location
+and also copy freetype-2.0\include\freetype directory itself to VC \include
+directory (just to save some clicks and typing while building NeL)
+
+To be continued ...
+
+PS. Many thanks to Paul Oakenfold and his wonderful music which save
+me from going madness while working under MS Windows :))
+--
+Dim Segebart mailto:<A HREF="mailto:zager@teleaction.de">zager@teleaction.de</A>
+
+
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+ <B>Nicolas Hognon</B>
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+ TITLE="[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32">cblt@cblt.org</A><BR>
+ <I>Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:08:35 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>hello (sorry for my english)
+
+i've got problem to build the client under win32.
+i build all the nel components and stl-port and freetype.
+then i build the client and i've got some problem at the link.
+
+here is the error log of visual.
+
+ &gt; Linking...
+ &gt; MSVCRTD.lib(cinitexe.obj) : warning LNK4098: defaultlib &quot;libcmt.lib&quot;
+ &gt; conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library
+ &gt; freetype.lib(ftinit.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol
+ &gt; _psaux_module_class
+ &gt; Debug/snowballs.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
+ &gt; Error executing link.exe.
+
+
+perhaps i make a mistake building freetype.
+i've got freetype-2.0.1 which generate freetype200b8_D.lib (debug)
+and freetype200b8MT.lib (release) in the lib directory.
+
+i try to link with the debug and the release one renaming it to
+freetype.lib cos the client link with freetype.lib
+but it don't work.
+i read different message in the mailing list and i understand the
+freetype lib is build in obj directory but one my system it's build in lib.
+is it possible i've got a wrong version of freetype ?
+
+thank you for you're help.
+
+and i've got another question a the 0.1 release of nel client and
+server. where are the data. in another module than code.
+cos i can see data on the webcvs but i can't get it with wincvs ?
+
+
+--
+Nicolas Hognon
+home : <A HREF="mailto:cblt@cblt.org">cblt@cblt.org</A> / www.cblt.org
+work : <A HREF="mailto:nicolash@virtools.com">nicolash@virtools.com</A> / www.virtools.com
+#ICQ : 36044443
+
+Enjoy the silence
+(DM)
+
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+ <B>Jerome Lanquetot</B>
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+<PRE>You have to add the psaux files in the freetype project (do it manually it
+works)
+
+
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;Nicolas Hognon&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:cblt@cblt.org">cblt@cblt.org</A>&gt;
+To: &lt;<A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:08 PM
+Subject: [Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32
+
+
+&gt;<i> hello (sorry for my english)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've got problem to build the client under win32.
+</I>&gt;<i> i build all the nel components and stl-port and freetype.
+</I>&gt;<i> then i build the client and i've got some problem at the link.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here is the error log of visual.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Linking...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; MSVCRTD.lib(cinitexe.obj) : warning LNK4098: defaultlib &quot;libcmt.lib&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; conflicts with use of other libs; use /NODEFAULTLIB:library
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; freetype.lib(ftinit.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _psaux_module_class
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Debug/snowballs.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Error executing link.exe.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps i make a mistake building freetype.
+</I>&gt;<i> i've got freetype-2.0.1 which generate freetype200b8_D.lib (debug)
+</I>&gt;<i> and freetype200b8MT.lib (release) in the lib directory.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i try to link with the debug and the release one renaming it to
+</I>&gt;<i> freetype.lib cos the client link with freetype.lib
+</I>&gt;<i> but it don't work.
+</I>&gt;<i> i read different message in the mailing list and i understand the
+</I>&gt;<i> freetype lib is build in obj directory but one my system it's build in
+</I>lib.
+&gt;<i> is it possible i've got a wrong version of freetype ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> thank you for you're help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and i've got another question a the 0.1 release of nel client and
+</I>&gt;<i> server. where are the data. in another module than code.
+</I>&gt;<i> cos i can see data on the webcvs but i can't get it with wincvs ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Nicolas Hognon
+</I>&gt;<i> home : <A HREF="mailto:cblt@cblt.org">cblt@cblt.org</A> / www.cblt.org
+</I>&gt;<i> work : <A HREF="mailto:nicolash@virtools.com">nicolash@virtools.com</A> / www.virtools.com
+</I>&gt;<i> #ICQ : 36044443
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Enjoy the silence
+</I>&gt;<i> (DM)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+ <I>Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:41:37 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> *** STLPort ***
+</I>&gt;<i> First problem is building STLPort.
+</I>&gt;<i> (first big problem is the size - You should have a plenty of free
+</I>space on
+&gt;<i> hard drive. After building, STLPORT occupies 377946112 bytes)
+</I>&gt;<i> For some reasons or other nmake
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't work for me as expected (could be what Win32 also hate me as I
+</I>&gt;<i> hate Win32 ;)) It reports a lot of errors and exit.
+</I>&gt;<i> To solve this problem you can do File-&gt;Open STLport-4.0\src\vc6.mak and
+</I>&gt;<i> then do Build-&gt;build stlport.exe
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally, after 30 minutes of hard work (PIII500/256), you'll have .lib &amp;
+</I>.dll &amp; .pdb
+&gt;<i> files located at STLport-4.0\lib Manually copy .lib (and I think
+</I>&gt;<i> .pdb too) to VC default \lib location and don't forget to copy .dll
+</I>&gt;<i> files to some place where they could be found at runtime.
+</I>
+yes
+
+&gt;<i> *** FreeType 2 ***
+</I>&gt;<i> You need GNU Make 3.77 Link at FreeType site is broken
+</I>&gt;<i> Grab it from
+</I><A HREF="ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/freetype/contrib/win32/gnumake-win32.zi">ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/freetype/contrib/win32/gnumake-win32.zi</A>
+p
+&gt;<i> or any other place you want
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>(<A HREF="http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&query=gnumake-win32.z">http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/cgi-bin/search?form=medium&amp;query=gnumake-win32.z</A>
+ip&amp;doit=Search&amp;type=Case+insensitive+multiple+substrings+search&amp;hits=50&amp;matc
+hes=&amp;hitsprmatch=&amp;limdom=&amp;limpath=&amp;hidepackages=on&amp;hidedistfiles=on&amp;hidefree
+bsd=on&amp;hideopenbsd=on&amp;hidenetbsd=on&amp;hidelinux=on&amp;f1=Count&amp;f2=Mode&amp;f3=Size&amp;f4
+=Date&amp;f5=Host&amp;f6=Path&amp;header=none&amp;sort=none&amp;trlen=20)
+&gt;<i> You should have both path to GNU make and path to VC++ binaries as well
+</I>&gt;<i> to be included into your PATH environment variable
+</I>&gt;<i> next do:
+</I>&gt;<i> make setup visualc
+</I>&gt;<i> make
+</I>&gt;<i> copy freetype-2.0\obj\freetype.lib to VC++ default \lib location
+</I>&gt;<i> and also copy freetype-2.0\include\freetype directory itself to VC
+</I>\include
+&gt;<i> directory (just to save some clicks and typing while building NeL)
+</I>
+yes too...
+
+In fact, I put in the INSTALL all things that you have to do to compile
+freetype, stlport and so on.
+But, I had to remove these information because, some people in Nevrax think
+that it s not our job
+to explain how to compile others external libraries.
+
+Thanks for all these informations and we hope that they helps everybody to
+compile more easily.
+
+
+Vianney
+
+
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> perhaps i make a mistake building freetype.
+</I>&gt;<i> i've got freetype-2.0.1 which generate freetype200b8_D.lib (debug)
+</I>&gt;<i> and freetype200b8MT.lib (release) in the lib directory.
+</I>
+when we compile freetype2.0.1, it generated a freetype.lib in the
+freetype-2.0.1/obj directory.
+we never rename the library name or something like that.
+we don t have freetype200b8MT.lib or these strange lib filename.
+it seems with the name that it s freetype version 2.0.0 beta 8 and it s
+perhaps the reason.
+
+&gt;<i> and i've got another question a the 0.1 release of nel client and
+</I>&gt;<i> server. where are the data. in another module than code.
+</I>&gt;<i> cos i can see data on the webcvs but i can't get it with wincvs ?
+</I>
+no, we don t put the data on cvs because it s too slow to get them and
+binaries are
+not very well managed in cvs. if you want data for the snowballs game, you
+have to
+download the tarball or zip file from the www.nevrax.org web site.
+
+Vianney
+
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+<PRE>&quot;Vianney Lecroart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:lecroart@nevrax.com">lecroart@nevrax.com</A>&gt; writes:
+
+&gt;<i> But, I had to remove these information because, some people in Nevrax
+</I>&gt;<i> think that it s not our job to explain how to compile others external
+</I>&gt;<i> libraries.
+</I>
+It is maybe not your job, but if people are unable to start, they will
+never give you a feedback (code, bugs, ...).
+
+d.
+--
+ <A HREF="mailto:David.Mentre@inria.fr">David.Mentre@inria.fr</A> -- <A HREF="http://www.irisa.fr/prive/dmentre/">http://www.irisa.fr/prive/dmentre/</A>
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+ <B>Cyril Corvazier</B>
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+Hi,
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+&gt;<i> here is the error:
+</I>&gt;<i> ERR client.cpp 2574: Exception: EBadDisplay: Missing Required GL =
+</I>extension:
+&gt;<i> GL_ARB_multitexture
+</I>
+
+The NeL's GlDriver works only if the GL_ARB_multitexture and =
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+If you don't have those extensions but your card can do multitexturing =
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; think that it s not our job to explain how to compile others external
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; libraries.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is maybe not your job, but if people are unable to start, they will
+</I>&gt;<i> never give you a feedback (code, bugs, ...).
+</I>
+Exact, We know that but in fact, if we put a doc explains all things to do
+to
+install external lib, we ll have to follow each new external lib version,
+try them
+and correct eventually the file. It s the reason that we prefer to refer to
+the
+external lib documentation to install them.
+Anyway, we'll perhaps put a special section on our web site or/and with nel
+to
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+Vianney Lecroart
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+I have some problems launching the five services: log, login, moves, =
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+I found nowhere some help about the functionnalities about each service =
+and the order in which they start.
+
+Could you help me to launch correctly the services.
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+&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;log, &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
+size=3D2&gt;login,=20
+&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;moves, &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:lecroart%40nevrax.com"
+ TITLE="[Nel] Server">lecroart@nevrax.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:19:46 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>I have some problems launching the five services: log, login, moves, naming
+</I>and time.
+&gt;<i>I found nowhere some help about the functionnalities about each service and
+</I>the order in which they start.
+&gt;<i>Could you help me to launch correctly the services.
+</I>
+first, you have to create the ns.cfg file with:
+
+--------begin of ns.cfg-------
+Host=&quot;your nameservice ip&quot;;
+Port=50000;
+--------end of ns.cfg-------
+
+after, you launch, in order:
+- naming &lt;-- used to find a specific service by his name
+- log &lt;-- centralized log for all service
+- time &lt;-- centralized time reference
+- login &lt;-- centralized user account for all shard
+- moves &lt;-- a shard
+
+of course, some services will create some config file that you have to fill.
+you have to put in the ls.txt the moves service host ip like this:
+
+----
+Shards = {
+ &quot;your moves service host ip&quot;, &quot;the name of the shard appears on the client&quot;
+};
+----
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+
+
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+Thanks Vianney,
+
+I have now two bugs.
+
+- The first one is when i launch the moves service, it closes itself.
+- The second one (linked to the first one i guess) is when i launch the =
+client i get the following exception:
+&quot;01/01/18 18:45:00 ERR client.cpp 2574: Exception: toto2&quot;
+
+I give you all my config files:
+
+ls.txt:
+
+Users =3D {
+};
+
+Shards =3D {
+ &quot;172.16.2.11&quot;, &quot;StartPosition&quot;
+};
+
+
+ns.cfg:
+
+Host=3D&quot;jlt&quot;;
+Port=3D50000;
+
+and client.cfg:
+// CLIENT CONFIG FILE
+
+FullScreen =3D 0;
+Width =3D 800;
+Height =3D 600;
+Depth =3D 16;
+Position =3D { 1840.000000, -970.000000, -23.520323 };
+Heading =3D { -0.122154, 1.000000, 0.0 };
+Background =3D { 100, 100, 255 };
+DataPath =3D &quot;data/&quot;;
+FontName =3D &quot;n019003l.pfb&quot;;
+LanguageIndex =3D 0;
+LSHost =3D &quot;172.16.2.11&quot;;
+Login =3D &quot;jaylee&quot;;
+Password =3D &quot;a&quot;;
+ShardIP =3D &quot;172.16.2.11&quot;;
+CharacterIndex =3D 0;
+LandscapeTileNear =3D 50.000000;
+LandscapeThreshold =3D 0.001000;
+
+
+
+----- Original Message -----=20
+From: &quot;Vianney Lecroart&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:lecroart@nevrax.com">lecroart@nevrax.com</A>&gt;
+To: &lt;<A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:19 PM
+Subject: Re: [Nel] Server
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;I have some problems launching the five services: log, login, moves, =
+</I>naming
+&gt;<i> and time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I found nowhere some help about the functionnalities about each =
+</I>service and
+&gt;<i> the order in which they start.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Could you help me to launch correctly the services.
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> first, you have to create the ns.cfg file with:
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> --------begin of ns.cfg-------
+</I>&gt;<i> Host=3D&quot;your nameservice ip&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i> Port=3D50000;
+</I>&gt;<i> --------end of ns.cfg-------
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> after, you launch, in order:
+</I>&gt;<i> - naming &lt;-- used to find a specific service by his =
+</I>name
+&gt;<i> - log &lt;-- centralized log for all service
+</I>&gt;<i> - time &lt;-- centralized time reference
+</I>&gt;<i> - login &lt;-- centralized user account for all =
+</I>shard
+&gt;<i> - moves &lt;-- a shard
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> of course, some services will create some config file that you have to =
+</I>fill.
+&gt;<i> you have to put in the ls.txt the moves service host ip like this:
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i> Shards =3D {
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;your moves service host ip&quot;, &quot;the name of the shard appears on the =
+</I>client&quot;
+&gt;<i> };
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> Vianney Lecroart
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i>=20
+</I>
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+ charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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+&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;
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+&lt;STYLE&gt;&lt;/STYLE&gt;
+&lt;/HEAD&gt;
+&lt;BODY&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;Thanks Vianney,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;I have now two bugs.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;- The first one is when i launch the =
+moves service,=20
+it closes itself.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;- The second one (linked to the first =
+one i guess)=20
+is when i launch the client i get the following exception:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&quot;01/01/18 18:45:00 ERR client.cpp 2574: =
+Exception:=20
+toto2&quot;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;I give you all my config =
+files:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ls.txt:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;Users =3D {&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;};&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;Shards =3D {&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp;&quot;172.16.2.11&quot;,=20
+&quot;StartPosition&quot;&lt;BR&gt;};&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
+size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;ns.cfg:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
+size=3D2&gt;Host=3D&quot;jlt&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;Port=3D50000;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;and =
+client.cfg:&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;// CLIENT CONFIG FILE
+&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;FullScreen =3D 0;&lt;BR&gt;Width =3D =
+800;&lt;BR&gt;Height =3D=20
+600;&lt;BR&gt;Depth =3D 16;&lt;BR&gt;Position =3D { 1840.000000, -970.000000, =
+-23.520323=20
+};&lt;BR&gt;Heading =3D { -0.122154, 1.000000, 0.0 };&lt;BR&gt;Background =3D { 100, =
+100, 255=20
+};&lt;BR&gt;DataPath =3D &quot;data/&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;FontName =3D =
+&quot;n019003l.pfb&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;LanguageIndex =3D=20
+0;&lt;BR&gt;LSHost =3D &quot;172.16.2.11&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;Login =3D &quot;jaylee&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;Password =3D =
+&quot;a&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;ShardIP=20
+=3D &quot;172.16.2.11&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;CharacterIndex =3D 0;&lt;BR&gt;LandscapeTileNear =3D=20
+50.000000;&lt;BR&gt;LandscapeThreshold =3D 0.001000;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;----- Original Message ----- &lt;/FONT&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;From: &quot;Vianney Lecroart&quot; &amp;lt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A=20
+href=3D&quot;mailto:<A HREF="mailto:lecroart@nevrax.com">lecroart@nevrax.com</A>&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial=20
+size=3D2&gt;<A HREF="mailto:lecroart@nevrax.com">lecroart@nevrax.com</A>&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
+size=3D2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;To: &amp;lt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A=20
+href=3D&quot;mailto:<A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial=20
+size=3D2&gt;<A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial =
+size=3D2&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 6:19=20
+PM&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;Subject: Re: [Nel] =
+Server&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
+face=3DArial=20
+size=3D2&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;I have some problems launching the five services: log, =
+login,=20
+moves, naming&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; and time.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;I found nowhere some help =
+about the=20
+functionnalities about each service and&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; the order in which they=20
+start.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;Could you help me to launch correctly the =
+services.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;=20
+&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; first, you have to create the ns.cfg file with:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; =
+&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;=20
+--------begin of ns.cfg-------&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Host=3D&quot;your nameservice =
+ip&quot;;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;=20
+Port=3D50000;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; --------end of ns.cfg-------&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; =
+after, you=20
+launch, in order:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; -=20
+naming&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;=
+nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;=20
+&amp;lt;-- used to find a specific service by his name&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; -=20
+log&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbs=
+p;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp=
+;=20
+&amp;lt;-- centralized log for all service&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; -=20
+time&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nb=
+sp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;=20
+&amp;lt;-- centralized time reference&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; -=20
+login&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;n=
+bsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;=20
+&amp;lt;-- centralized user account for all shard&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; -=20
+moves&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;n=
+bsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;=20
+&amp;lt;-- a shard&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; of course, some services will create =
+some config=20
+file that you have to fill.&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; you have to put in the ls.txt the =
+moves=20
+service host ip like this:&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; ----&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Shards =3D =
+{&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;=20
+&amp;nbsp;&quot;your moves service host ip&quot;, &quot;the name of the shard appears on =
+the=20
+client&quot;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; };&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; ----&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Vianney =
+Lecroart&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt;=20
+&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; =
+_______________________________________________&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; Nel=20
+mailing list&lt;BR&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A href=3D&quot;mailto:<A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A>&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT =
+face=3DArial=20
+size=3D2&gt;<A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A>&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&amp;gt; =
+&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;A=20
+href=3D&quot;<A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel"">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel&quot;</A>&gt;&lt;FONT =
+face=3DArial=20
+size=3D2&gt;<A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel</FONT">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel&lt;/FONT</A>&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FO=
+NT=20
+face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;
+
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+ <B>robofly</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:robofly%40in-orbit.net"
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+ <I>Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:02:44 -0800</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Jerome,
+
+Thursday, January 18, 2001, 9:50:22 AM, you wrote:
+JL&gt; - The first one is when i launch the moves service, it closes itself.
+
+You might have to use the host name of your
+computer instead of the IP number in ls.txt.
+
+Maybe you should also use the host name instead
+of the IP number in the LSHost parameter in the
+client.cfg
+
+JL&gt; - The second one (linked to the first one i guess) is when i launch the client i get the following exception:
+JL&gt; &quot;01/01/18 18:45:00 ERR client.cpp 2574: Exception: toto2&quot;
+
+This is probably because the client can't connect
+to the moves_service, that was not started...
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert
+
+
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+ <B>Jerome Lanquetot</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:jerome.lanquetot%40animaths.com"
+ TITLE="Re[2]: [Nel] Server">jerome.lanquetot@animaths.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:18:23 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+The problem remains the same, the moves service closes itself. I use the
+host name of my machine, and it doesn't work. I think the best is to send us
+your two config files (ls.txt and ns.cfg) used for your server.
+
+Is there a log file or window to see what is wrong?
+
+thanks
+
+Jerome
+
+----- Original Message -----
+From: &quot;robofly&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:robofly@in-orbit.net">robofly@in-orbit.net</A>&gt;
+To: &quot;Jerome Lanquetot&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>&gt;
+Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:02 PM
+Subject: Re[2]: [Nel] Server
+
+
+&gt;<i> Hi Jerome,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thursday, January 18, 2001, 9:50:22 AM, you wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> JL&gt; - The first one is when i launch the moves service, it closes itself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You might have to use the host name of your
+</I>&gt;<i> computer instead of the IP number in ls.txt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you should also use the host name instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of the IP number in the LSHost parameter in the
+</I>&gt;<i> client.cfg
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> JL&gt; - The second one (linked to the first one i guess) is when i launch
+</I>the client i get the following exception:
+&gt;<i> JL&gt; &quot;01/01/18 18:45:00 ERR client.cpp 2574: Exception: toto2&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is probably because the client can't connect
+</I>&gt;<i> to the moves_service, that was not started...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Warm regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Róbert
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:lecroart%40nevrax.com"
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+ <I>Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:21:48 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+please, could you stop to send your email in HTML format?
+it s not safe and not really cool to read them on text mail program. thank
+you.
+
+&gt;<i>I have now two bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i>- The first one is when i launch the moves service, it closes itself.
+</I>&gt;<i>- The second one (linked to the first one i guess) is when i launch the
+</I>client i get the following exception:
+&gt;<i>&quot;01/01/18 18:45:00 ERR client.cpp 2574: Exception: toto2&quot;
+</I>
+ok, if your moves serive is not launch, you *cant* connect your client, so
+the second problem
+is because of that. if your moves service closes itself, it s surely because
+the login service
+didn't authorized him to be an official shard. official shard are in ls.txt
+file (Shard variable) and
+for a strange reason, the ip you put on it isn t the same that the one who
+sent by the moves service.
+
+all services log informations in a file called logs.log, you should take a
+look on it.
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+
+
+
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+<PRE>Hi Jerome,
+
+Friday, January 19, 2001, 12:18:23 AM, you wrote:
+JL&gt; The problem remains the same, the moves service closes itself. I use the
+JL&gt; host name of my machine, and it doesn't work. I think the best is to send us
+JL&gt; your two config files (ls.txt and ns.cfg) used for your server.
+
+One hint: If you can, rename your computer
+to &quot;pctest&quot; and try running the servers.
+This is a default hostname in the NeL code.
+You should be able to override this with
+the ns.cfg file.
+
+Also I had some problems with DNS issues, the
+test computer I was using didn't have a
+legal host name that could be looked up,
+after I fixed that everything worked...
+
+Warm regards,
+Robert
+
+&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;ns.cfg&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+Host=&quot;pctest&quot;;
+Port=50000;
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>ns.cfg&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;
+</I>
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+<PRE>C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties.
+
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+
+I just downloaded all necessary packages (I think so) to run
+nel software but it seems that a file is missing.
+While compiling the 3d lib,
+a &quot;fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'freetype/freetype.h': No
+such file or directory&quot;
+occurs.
+
+I'm trying to compile it using VC++ under win2000.
+I have downloaded STLPort and configured VC++ to use it. After having
+launched a &quot;find file&quot; command under windows, it seems that freetype.h isn't
+stored on my hard disk. Could you add it in the CVS tree please ?
+
+Thanks in advance and may the force be with you :)
+
+Poet007.
+
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+downloaded=20
+all necessary packages (I think so) to run &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;nel =
+software but it=20
+seems that a file is missing.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;While =
+compiling the=20
+3d lib,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;a =
+&quot;fatal error=20
+C1083: Cannot open include file: 'freetype/freetype.h': No such file or=20
+directory&quot;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN=20
+class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;occurs.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN=20
+class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;I'm =
+trying to=20
+compile it using VC++ under win2000.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;I have =
+downloaded=20
+STLPort and configured VC++ to use it. After having&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN =
+class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;launched a &quot;find=20
+file&quot; command under windows, it seems that freetype.h =
+isn't&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;stored =
+on my hard=20
+disk. Could you add it in the CVS tree please ?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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+&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3DArial size=3D2&gt;&lt;SPAN class=3D687323718-21012001&gt;Thanks =
+in advance=20
+and may the force be with you :)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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+ <I>Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:33:54 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>I just posted a question before reading
+the documentation and other posted messages...
+I know now where to look for the freetype missing
+file :)
+But it just seems that the server is broken tonight...
+I will have a look at it tomorrow though...
+Sorry again guys !
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+&gt;<i> But it just seems that the server is broken tonight...
+</I>&gt;<i> I will have a look at it tomorrow though...
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry again guys !
+</I>
+We had a powerdown during this week-end, and the server restarted, but
+for some odd reasons, you had about 80% or so packetloss on the network
+interface, and it was almost unreachable. We've fixed the missing files
+and restarted the server, which should be working &quot;more or less&quot; ok.
+
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+<PRE>I have just commited on CVS the last fix for linux compilation of
+NeL and Snowballs.
+It should compile and link with no problem.
+You can run the executable but you must have accelerated opengl driver.
+If you want to do some feedback, bug fixes etc.. don t hesitate!
+
+Vianney Lecroart
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+ <B>robofly</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I'm trying to compile tile_edit from the tools folder. After
+uncompressing a jpeg source code library in the Pic subfolder
+I get the following compilation errors. It the Pic/ stuff
+some kind of an standard image library, from somewhere?
+
+Warm regards,
+Róbert
+
+ps. Here is the output from my compiler:
+
+--------------------Configuration: tile_edit_exe - Win32 Release--------------------
+Compiling...
+jchuff.c
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jchuff.c(271) : error C2054: expected '(' to follow 'inline'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jchuff.c(273) : error C2085: 'emit_bits' : not in formal parameter list
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jchuff.c(273) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '{'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jchuff.c(311) : warning C4013: 'emit_bits' undefined; assuming extern returning int
+jcphuff.c
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(235) : error C2054: expected '(' to follow 'inline'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(237) : error C2085: 'emit_bits' : not in formal parameter list
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(237) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '{'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(276) : warning C4013: 'emit_bits' undefined; assuming extern returning int
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(288) : error C2054: expected '(' to follow 'inline'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(289) : error C2085: 'emit_symbol' : not in formal parameter list
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(289) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before '{'
+D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\jcphuff.c(333) : warning C4013: 'emit_symbol' undefined; assuming extern returning int
+Pic_BMP.c
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\Pic_BMP.c': No such file or directory
+Pic_JPG.c
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\Pic_JPG.c': No such file or directory
+Pic_Manage.c
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\Pic_Manage.c': No such file or directory
+PIC_System.c
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\PIC_System.c': No such file or directory
+Pic_TGA.c
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\Pic_TGA.c': No such file or directory
+Generating Code...
+Compiling...
+readpic.cpp
+fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'D:\code\tool\tile_edit\Pic\readpic.cpp': No such file or directory
+Generating Code...
+Error executing cl.exe.
+
+tile_edit.exe - 15 error(s), 3 warning(s)
+
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+ <B>Cyril Corvazier</B>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+&gt;<i> I'm trying to compile tile_edit from the tools folder. After
+</I>&gt;<i> uncompressing a jpeg source code library in the Pic subfolder
+</I>&gt;<i> I get the following compilation errors.
+</I>
+You are right, the PIC folder was missing on the CVS in tool/tile_edit/PIC.
+That's ok now.
+
+Regards,
+
+Cyril Corvazier.
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+ <B>Valignat Cedric</B>
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+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:39:33 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Debian User wrote:
+&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i> /* Header file version number, required by OpenGL ABI for Linux */
+</I>&gt;<i> #define GL_GLEXT_VERSION 6
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ???
+</I>&gt;<i> You guys are not up to date! you are ahead of time :-)
+</I>
+hehe, i checked the RedHat's rpm of Mesa and it include the last version
+glext.h (version 7) from SGI and not from Mesa (version 6) ... :-)
+
+I'm going to update the INSTALL file to put a note about it ...
+
+
+Cedric.
+
+
+PS: Sorry if it take a long time to answer your mail, i was in vavcation ...
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+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:48:51 +0100</I>
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+(unstable), and the nel/ configure script complains about OpenGL version
+being too old (GL_GLEXT_VERSION &lt; 7). Debian packages the original XFree 4.0.2
+header files, XFree says 4.0.2 uses Mesa 3.4, and if you downloa Mesa 3.4 you'll
+see that GL_GLEXT_VERSION is set to 6.
+
+Since the latest version from SGI's OpenGL sample implementation is set to 7,
+and Mesa's CVS stick to that 6, I guess Nevrax developpers use somewhat
+cstomized RPMs (let me guess ... Mandrake ? :))
+
+I suggest that the configure script should be relying on version 6 for now,
+in order we claim what's really implemented by XFree 4.0.2.
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+<PRE>I'm using gcc/g++ 2.95.3, and it seems that it doesn't like anonymous structures
+(see gcc output below). I read that it's definitively not a standard feature,
+and was orginally a MS VC++ extension, that was more or less adopted by others.
+Seems that the gcc guy didn't approved it, but I didn't checked in depth. I
+guess others are using the egcs c++ (1.1.2) frontend ?
+I personnaly don't approve being able to acces a member without naming the
+structure ...
+
+In file included from driver_opengl.h:43,
+ from driver_opengl.cpp:45:
+../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:264: anonymous class type not used to
+declare any objects
+../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h: In method `void
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::setDefault()':
+../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:273: `union
+NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::{anonymous}' has no member named `OpRGB'
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+ <B>Vianney Lecroart</B>
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+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:27:21 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I'm using gcc/g++ 2.95.3, and it seems that it doesn't like anonymous
+</I>structures
+&gt;<i> (see gcc output below). I read that it's definitively not a standard
+</I>feature,
+&gt;<i> and was orginally a MS VC++ extension, that was more or less adopted by
+</I>others.
+&gt;<i> Seems that the gcc guy didn't approved it, but I didn't checked in depth.
+</I>I
+&gt;<i> guess others are using the egcs c++ (1.1.2) frontend ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I personnaly don't approve being able to acces a member without naming the
+</I>&gt;<i> structure ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In file included from driver_opengl.h:43,
+</I>&gt;<i> from driver_opengl.cpp:45:
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:264: anonymous class type not used
+</I>to
+&gt;<i> declare any objects
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h: In method `void
+</I>&gt;<i> NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::setDefault()':
+</I>&gt;<i> ../../../../include/nel/3d/material.h:273: `union
+</I>&gt;<i> NL3D::CMaterial::CTexEnv::{anonymous}' has no member named `OpRGB'
+</I>
+Yes, we know that. In fact, it compiles with no warning with gcc 2.96.
+If you could give me a link to a document that say it s not ANSI, i ll be
+glad.
+
+Regards,
+
+Vianney Lecroart
+
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+<PRE>Vincent Caron wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the latest version from SGI's OpenGL sample implementation is set to 7,
+</I>&gt;<i> and Mesa's CVS stick to that 6, I guess Nevrax developpers use somewhat
+</I>&gt;<i> cstomized RPMs (let me guess ... Mandrake ? :))
+</I>
+Nop, but you are quite close : RedHat 7.0 :-)
+
+&gt;<i> I suggest that the configure script should be relying on version 6 for now,
+</I>&gt;<i> in order we claim what's really implemented by XFree 4.0.2.
+</I>
+The problem is that we are going, in a very short time, to use recent
+extensions present only in the version 7 of glext.h. So it migth be useless
+to change it now and change it agin soon ...
+
+Anyway, i'm going to put a note about the glext.h version and where to find it
+in nel's INSTALL file.
+
+Cedric.
+
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+ <B>Lionel Berenguier</B>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I'm having the same trouble as Bernard Hugueney had. I'm using Debian Sid
+</I>&gt;<i> (unstable), and the nel/ configure script complains about OpenGL version
+</I>&gt;<i> being too old (GL_GLEXT_VERSION &lt; 7). Debian packages the original XFree
+</I>4.0.2
+&gt;<i> header files, XFree says 4.0.2 uses Mesa 3.4, and if you downloa Mesa 3.4
+</I>you'll
+&gt;<i> see that GL_GLEXT_VERSION is set to 6.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the latest version from SGI's OpenGL sample implementation is set to
+</I>7,
+&gt;<i> and Mesa's CVS stick to that 6, I guess Nevrax developpers use somewhat
+</I>&gt;<i> cstomized RPMs (let me guess ... Mandrake ? :))
+</I>
+No.
+
+&quot;glext.h&quot; is NOT linked to any linux distribution/version. His purpose is to
+declare all the possible extensions of any graphic hardware. For that
+reason, SGI handles the &quot;official&quot; glext.h, which you can retrieve from:
+
+<A HREF="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h">http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h</A>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I suggest that the configure script should be relying on version 6 for
+</I>now,
+&gt;<i> in order we claim what's really implemented by XFree 4.0.2.
+</I>
+For now, we do not really use the version 7 of the header, but this will
+come soon (for fututre new extensions such as NV20 ones), so the only thing
+you must do, is to get and replace the glext.h.
+
+
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+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:34:47 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Lionel Berenguier wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, we do not really use the version 7 of the header, but this will
+</I>&gt;<i> come soon (for fututre new extensions such as NV20 ones), so the only thing
+</I>&gt;<i> you must do, is to get and replace the glext.h.
+</I>
+All right, I read SGI's recommendations. I'll suggest Debian to upgrade their
+glext.h then.
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+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500 (EST)</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> &gt; being too old (GL_GLEXT_VERSION &lt; 7). Debian packages the original XFree
+</I>&gt;<i> 4.0.2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;glext.h&quot; is NOT linked to any linux distribution/version. His purpose is to
+</I>&gt;<i> declare all the possible extensions of any graphic hardware. For that
+</I>&gt;<i> reason, SGI handles the &quot;official&quot; glext.h, which you can retrieve from:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h">http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/glext.h</A>
+</I>
+if in fact this is true (i'll take your word for it) someone should
+probably make a .deb that downloads and installs the newer glext.h. it'll
+take some trickery to get the overrrides and alternatives right, but
+nothing that can't be done. it'll have to cooperate with mesa and xfree
+maintainers, too- even less fun. maybe xfree and mesa developers will
+upgrade their version of the file soon?
+
+elijah
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I'm using gcc/g++ 2.95.3, and it seems that it doesn't like anonymous
+</I>structures
+&gt;<i> (see gcc output below). I read that it's definitively not a standard
+</I>feature,
+&gt;<i> and was orginally a MS VC++ extension, that was more or less adopted by
+</I>others.
+&gt;<i> Seems that the gcc guy didn't approved it, but I didn't checked in depth.
+</I>I
+&gt;<i> guess others are using the egcs c++ (1.1.2) frontend ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I personnaly don't approve being able to acces a member without naming the
+</I>&gt;<i> structure ...
+</I>
+You're right. Fixed... :o)
+
+regards
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+<PRE>Vianney Lecroart wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we know that. In fact, it compiles with no warning with gcc 2.96.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could give me a link to a document that say it s not ANSI, i ll be
+</I>&gt;<i> glad.
+</I>
+I only happend to find a two years old mail from a mingw32 developer :
+ <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/1998-11/msg00729.html">http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/1998-11/msg00729.html</A>
+
+I guess the correct answer would be to read carefully the C++ ANSI draft,
+but it's boooorring :)
+ <A HREF="http://www.cygnus.com/misc/wp/dec96pub/">http://www.cygnus.com/misc/wp/dec96pub/</A>
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+ <B>david.belius@chello.se</B>
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+<PRE>Freetype is a library. www.freetype.org.
+
+Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I just downloaded all necessary packages (I think so) to run
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nel software but it seems that a file is missing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While compiling the 3d lib,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> a &quot;fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'freetype/freetype.h':
+</I>&gt;<i> No such file or directory&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> occurs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm trying to compile it using VC++ under win2000.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have downloaded STLPort and configured VC++ to use it. After having
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> launched a &quot;find file&quot; command under windows, it seems that freetype.h isn't
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> stored on my hard disk. Could you add it in the CVS tree please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance and may the force be with you :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Poet007.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+ <B>Valignat Cedric</B>
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+ TITLE="[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out">valignat@nevrax.com</A><BR>
+ <I>Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:26:13 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Hi David,
+
+David Mentre wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is maybe not your job, but if people are unable to start, they will
+</I>&gt;<i> never give you a feedback (code, bugs, ...).
+</I>
+I'm one of the guys who was at the origin of that decision.
+
+It's not a problem about our job or not, it's more about the fact
+that you will never get from us a better support on these libraries
+installation that you could get from the guys who are working
+on them ... even if i know that it is pretty troublesome to look
+for informations on several place about several libraries just to
+install NeL :-)
+
+And if their installation instructions aren't up to date or incomplete,
+that's will be nice to contact them to fix that. I'm sure that a lot a
+people (mainly user as you are, but not necessarily NeL users :-) will
+appreciate the help ... as we will ;-)
+
+Anyway, we are going to write a small document explaining the basic
+installation instructions for these libraries, but you should not
+rely on that document to resolve all your installation problems.
+
+In case of troubles, you should look carefully at the README,
+the INSTALL files, and on the the files placed in the directory named
+doc(s) in the librarie file source tree, and do not forget there web
+sites, mailling lists, etc ... ;-)
+
+
+Cedric.
+
+
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+ <B>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:poet007%40ifrance.com"
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+ <I>Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:34:14 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>Message: 9
+</I>&gt;<i>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:13:38 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i>From: <A HREF="mailto:david.belius@chello.se">david.belius@chello.se</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>To: <A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>Subject: Re: [Nel] Compiling nel
+</I>&gt;<i>Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:nel@nevrax.org">nel@nevrax.org</A>
+</I>
+&gt;<i>Freetype is a library. www.freetype.org.
+</I>
+It seems that the adress above is not valid
+anymore. But the freetype lib is still available
+at the adress below :
+
+<A HREF="http://freetype.sourceforge.net/">http://freetype.sourceforge.net/</A>
+
+Poet007
+
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+ <B>Valignat Cedric</B>
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+ <I>Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:41:07 +0100</I>
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+<PRE>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the adress above is not valid
+</I>&gt;<i> anymore.
+</I>
+Thei server is still running, it's just that there web server is down :-(
+
+It migth be fix soon ... i hope :-)
+
+&gt;<i> But the freetype lib is still available at the adress below :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://freetype.sourceforge.net/">http://freetype.sourceforge.net/</A>
+</I>
+Do not forget to not choose the European mirror but the USA one ...
+
+
+Cedric.
+
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 3 10:56:19 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 74<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI> <A HREF="000114.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="114"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000120.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="120"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000123.html">[Nel] opengl problem</A> <A NAME="123"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000088.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="88"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000101.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="101"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000102.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="102"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000124.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="124"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000143.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="143"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000152.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="152"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000155.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="155"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000118.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="118"></A><I>Robert Bjarnason</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000148.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="148"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000149.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="149"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000153.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="153"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000156.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="156"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000111.html">[Nel] NeL compilation</A> <A NAME="111"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000112.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="112"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000115.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="115"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000117.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="117"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000147.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="147"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000151.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="151"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000158.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="158"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000160.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="160"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000100.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="100"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000105.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="105"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000131.html">[Nel] Gl driver</A> <A NAME="131"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000146.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="146"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000126.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="126"></A><I>Nicolas Hognon</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000093.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="93"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000097.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="97"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000116.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="116"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000127.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="127"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000133.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="133"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000135.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="135"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000137.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="137"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000092.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="92"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000106.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="106"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000107.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="107"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000113.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="113"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000122.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="122"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000128.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="128"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000129.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="129"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000132.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="132"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000134.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="134"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000138.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="138"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000144.html">[Nel] nel, snowballs and linux</A> <A NAME="144"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000150.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="150"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000091.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="91"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000094.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="94"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000095.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="95"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000096.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="96"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000098.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="98"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000130.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="130"></A><I>David Mentre</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000089.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="89"></A><I>Nevrax</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000140.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="140"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000141.html">[Nel] Sorry</A> <A NAME="141"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000142.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="142"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000159.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="159"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000090.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="90"></A><I>sameh chafik Pro</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000125.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="125"></A><I>Dim Segebart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000121.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="121"></A><I>Debian User</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000099.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="99"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000103.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux (more)</A> <A NAME="103"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000087.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="87"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000157.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="157"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000104.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="104"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000108.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="108"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000109.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="109"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000110.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="110"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000119.html">[Nel] Maya plugin issues</A> <A NAME="119"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000136.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="136"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000139.html">Re[4]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="139"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000145.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="145"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000154.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="154"></A><I>elijah wright</I>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 3 10:56:19 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 74<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI> <A HREF="000088.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="88"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000089.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="89"></A><I>Nevrax</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000087.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="87"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000090.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="90"></A><I>sameh chafik Pro</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000091.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="91"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000092.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="92"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000093.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="93"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000094.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="94"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000095.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="95"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000096.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="96"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000097.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="97"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000098.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="98"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000099.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="99"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000100.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="100"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000101.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="101"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000102.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="102"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000103.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux (more)</A> <A NAME="103"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000104.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="104"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000105.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="105"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000106.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="106"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000107.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="107"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000108.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="108"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000109.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="109"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000110.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="110"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000111.html">[Nel] NeL compilation</A> <A NAME="111"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000112.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="112"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000113.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="113"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000114.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="114"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000115.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="115"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000116.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="116"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000117.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="117"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000118.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="118"></A><I>Robert Bjarnason</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000119.html">[Nel] Maya plugin issues</A> <A NAME="119"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000120.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="120"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000121.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="121"></A><I>Debian User</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000122.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="122"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000123.html">[Nel] opengl problem</A> <A NAME="123"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000124.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="124"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000125.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="125"></A><I>Dim Segebart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000126.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="126"></A><I>Nicolas Hognon</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000127.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="127"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000128.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="128"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000129.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="129"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000130.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="130"></A><I>David Mentre</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000131.html">[Nel] Gl driver</A> <A NAME="131"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000132.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="132"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000133.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="133"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000134.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="134"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000135.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="135"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000136.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="136"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000137.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="137"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000138.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="138"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000139.html">Re[4]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="139"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000140.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="140"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000141.html">[Nel] Sorry</A> <A NAME="141"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000142.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="142"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000143.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="143"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000144.html">[Nel] nel, snowballs and linux</A> <A NAME="144"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000145.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="145"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000146.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="146"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000147.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="147"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000148.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="148"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000149.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="149"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000150.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="150"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000151.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="151"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000152.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="152"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000153.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="153"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000154.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="154"></A><I>elijah wright</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000155.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="155"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000156.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="156"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000157.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="157"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000158.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="158"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000159.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="159"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000160.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="160"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 10:42:01 2001</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>2001-January Archives by Thread</h1>
+ <ul>
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+ <li><b><a href="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 3 10:56:19 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 74<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 00978549244- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000089.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="999"></A><I>Nevrax</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978597532- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000090.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1000"></A><I>sameh chafik Pro</I>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978598494- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000091.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1001"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000093.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1003"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000094.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1004"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000095.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="1005"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978615310- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000096.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="1006"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000097.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1007"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978628531- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000098.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1008"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978683993- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000101.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1011"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978683993-00978685226- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000102.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1012"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978600353- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000092.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1002"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--1 00978549244-00979055006- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000112.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1022"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978556242- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000087.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="997"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978556242-00978515779- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000088.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="998"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978661384- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000099.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="1009"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978661384-00978681199- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000100.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="1010"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978661384-00978681199-00978739450- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000103.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux (more)</A> <A NAME="1013"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978741304- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000104.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1014"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978946411- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000105.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1015"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978741304-00978946411-00978978176- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000110.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1020"></A><I>robofly</I>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978947312- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000106.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1016"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978948948- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000107.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1017"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978741304-00978948948-00978977805- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000109.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1019"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00978741304-00978948948-00978977805-00979057362- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000113.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1023"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978977029- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000108.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1018"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--0 00979054651- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000111.html">[Nel] NeL compilation</A> <A NAME="1021"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<!--0 00979222405- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000114.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1024"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979222405-00979226320- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000115.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1025"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000120.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1030"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000121.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1031"></A><I>Debian User</I>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126-00979718466- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000122.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1032"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126-00980242773- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000147.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1057"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979235608- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000116.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1026"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979235608-00979293696- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000117.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1027"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979235608-00979293696-00979444194- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000118.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1028"></A><I>Robert Bjarnason</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979529192- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000119.html">[Nel] Maya plugin issues</A> <A NAME="1029"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--0 00979728413- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000123.html">[Nel] opengl problem</A> <A NAME="1033"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<!--0 00979750151- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000124.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1034"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979750151-00979762633- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000125.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1035"></A><I>Dim Segebart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000128.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1038"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000130.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1040"></A><I>David Mentre</I>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341-00979833371- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000132.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1042"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341-00980267173- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000158.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1068"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979765715- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000126.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1036"></A><I>Nicolas Hognon</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979765715-00979807116- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000127.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1037"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--1 00979765715-00979807719- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000129.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1039"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979822885- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000131.html">[Nel] Gl driver</A> <A NAME="1041"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979822885-00979833682- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000133.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1043"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000134.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1044"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000135.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1045"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000136.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1046"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964-00979888703- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000137.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1047"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964-00979888703-00979949945- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000139.html">Re[4]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1049"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979914108- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000138.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1048"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980099034- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000140.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="1050"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980099034-00980262818- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000157.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="1067"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980100482- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000141.html">[Nel] Sorry</A> <A NAME="1051"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<!--0 00980109234- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000142.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="1052"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980109234-00980155786- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000143.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="1053"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980181227- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000144.html">[Nel] nel, snowballs and linux</A> <A NAME="1054"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--0 00980182797- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000145.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="1055"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980182797-00980237665- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000146.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="1056"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980243331- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000148.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1058"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980243331-00980252884- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000151.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1061"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<!--1 00980243331-00980253161- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000152.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1062"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00980243331-00980253161-00980256887- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000153.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1063"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<!--2 00980243331-00980253161-00980258243- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000154.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1064"></A><I>elijah wright</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980252340- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000149.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1059"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980252340-00980252841- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000150.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1060"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00980252340-00980252841-00980258930- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000156.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1066"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00980252340-00980258556- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000155.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1065"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980372054- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000159.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="1069"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980372054-00980412067- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000160.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="1070"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 10:42:01 2001</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>2001-January Archives by Subject</h1>
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+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 3 10:56:19 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 74<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI> <A HREF="000124.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="124"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000125.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="125"></A><I>Dim Segebart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000128.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="128"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000130.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="130"></A><I>David Mentre</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000132.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="132"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000158.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="158"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000095.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="95"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000096.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="96"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000099.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="99"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000100.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="100"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000103.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux (more)</A> <A NAME="103"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000088.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="88"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000087.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="87"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000140.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="140"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000157.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="157"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000159.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="159"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000160.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="160"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000104.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="104"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000105.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="105"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000106.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="106"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000107.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="107"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000149.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="149"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000150.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="150"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000155.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="155"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000156.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="156"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000131.html">[Nel] Gl driver</A> <A NAME="131"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000119.html">[Nel] Maya plugin issues</A> <A NAME="119"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000114.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="114"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000115.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="115"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000116.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="116"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000117.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="117"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000120.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="120"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000121.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="121"></A><I>Debian User</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000122.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="122"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000147.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="147"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000111.html">[Nel] NeL compilation</A> <A NAME="111"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000144.html">[Nel] nel, snowballs and linux</A> <A NAME="144"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000123.html">[Nel] opengl problem</A> <A NAME="123"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000148.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="148"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000151.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="151"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000152.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="152"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000153.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="153"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000154.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="154"></A><I>elijah wright</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000145.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="145"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000146.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="146"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000097.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="97"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000098.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="98"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000101.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="101"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000102.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="102"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000133.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="133"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000134.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="134"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000135.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="135"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000138.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="138"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000089.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="89"></A><I>Nevrax</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000090.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="90"></A><I>sameh chafik Pro</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000091.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="91"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000092.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="92"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000093.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="93"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000094.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="94"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000112.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="112"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000126.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="126"></A><I>Nicolas Hognon</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000127.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="127"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000129.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="129"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000141.html">[Nel] Sorry</A> <A NAME="141"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000142.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="142"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000143.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="143"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000108.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="108"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000109.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="109"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000110.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="110"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000113.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="113"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000118.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="118"></A><I>Robert Bjarnason</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000136.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="136"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000137.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="137"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<LI> <A HREF="000139.html">Re[4]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="139"></A><I>robofly</I>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 10:42:01 2001</i>
+ <p>
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+ <h1>2001-January Archives by Thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <li><b><a href="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 3 10:56:19 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Thu Jan 25 09:41:07 2001</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 74<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 00978549244- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000089.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="999"></A><I>Nevrax</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978597532- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000090.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1000"></A><I>sameh chafik Pro</I>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978598494- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000091.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1001"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000093.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1003"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000094.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1004"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000095.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="1005"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978615310- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000096.html">[Nel] Boost.org</A> <A NAME="1006"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000097.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1007"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978628531- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000098.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1008"></A><I>Olivier Lejade</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978683993- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000101.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1011"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<!--3 00978549244-00978598494-00978601342-00978602307-00978603642-00978627248-00978683993-00978685226- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000102.html">[Nel] re: Boost library</A> <A NAME="1012"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00978549244-00978600353- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000092.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1002"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--1 00978549244-00979055006- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000112.html">[Nel] Some comments from a new user (builder only for now)</A> <A NAME="1022"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978556242- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000087.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="997"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978556242-00978515779- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000088.html">[Nel] Compiling in VC++</A> <A NAME="998"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978661384- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000099.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="1009"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978661384-00978681199- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000100.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux</A> <A NAME="1010"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978661384-00978681199-00978739450- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000103.html">[Nel] compile problems on debian gnu/linux (more)</A> <A NAME="1013"></A><I>Michael Warnock</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978741304- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000104.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1014"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978946411- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000105.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1015"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978741304-00978946411-00978978176- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000110.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1020"></A><I>robofly</I>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978947312- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000106.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1016"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--1 00978741304-00978948948- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000107.html">[Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1017"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00978741304-00978948948-00978977805- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000109.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1019"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00978741304-00978948948-00978977805-00979057362- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000113.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1023"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00978977029- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000108.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1018"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--0 00979054651- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000111.html">[Nel] NeL compilation</A> <A NAME="1021"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<!--0 00979222405- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000114.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1024"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979222405-00979226320- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000115.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1025"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000120.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1030"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000121.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1031"></A><I>Debian User</I>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126-00979718466- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000122.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1032"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--3 00979222405-00979226320-00979555366-00979689126-00980242773- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000147.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1057"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979235608- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000116.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1026"></A><I>Bernard Hugueney</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979235608-00979293696- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000117.html">[Nel] mesa3D</A> <A NAME="1027"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979235608-00979293696-00979444194- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000118.html">Re[2]: [Nel] File formats+other stuff</A> <A NAME="1028"></A><I>Robert Bjarnason</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979529192- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000119.html">[Nel] Maya plugin issues</A> <A NAME="1029"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--0 00979728413- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000123.html">[Nel] opengl problem</A> <A NAME="1033"></A><I>=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_P=E9richon?=</I>
+<!--0 00979750151- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000124.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1034"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979750151-00979762633- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000125.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1035"></A><I>Dim Segebart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000128.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1038"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000130.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1040"></A><I>David Mentre</I>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341-00979833371- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000132.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1042"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--3 00979750151-00979762633-00979807297-00979808341-00980267173- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000158.html">[Nel] Announce: NeL 0.1 is officially out</A> <A NAME="1068"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979765715- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000126.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1036"></A><I>Nicolas Hognon</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979765715-00979807116- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000127.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1037"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--1 00979765715-00979807719- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000129.html">[Nel] some questions about buildings Nel under win32</A> <A NAME="1039"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00979822885- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000131.html">[Nel] Gl driver</A> <A NAME="1041"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00979822885-00979833682- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000133.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1043"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000134.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1044"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000135.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1045"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000136.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1046"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964-00979888703- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000137.html">Re[2]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1047"></A><I>Jerome Lanquetot</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979840964-00979888703-00979949945- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000139.html">Re[4]: [Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1049"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<!--3 00979822885-00979833682-00979834786-00979836622-00979914108- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000138.html">[Nel] Server</A> <A NAME="1048"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980099034- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000140.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="1050"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980099034-00980262818- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000157.html">[Nel] Compiling nel</A> <A NAME="1067"></A><I>david.belius@chello.se</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980100482- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000141.html">[Nel] Sorry</A> <A NAME="1051"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<!--0 00980109234- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000142.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="1052"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980109234-00980155786- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000143.html">[Nel] Sorry again :)</A> <A NAME="1053"></A><I>Vincent Archer</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980181227- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000144.html">[Nel] nel, snowballs and linux</A> <A NAME="1054"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<!--0 00980182797- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000145.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="1055"></A><I>robofly</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980182797-00980237665- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000146.html">[Nel] Problems compiling tile_edit</A> <A NAME="1056"></A><I>Cyril Corvazier</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980243331- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000148.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1058"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980243331-00980252884- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000151.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1061"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+<!--1 00980243331-00980253161- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000152.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1062"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00980243331-00980253161-00980256887- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000153.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1063"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<!--2 00980243331-00980253161-00980258243- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000154.html">[Nel] Pb with glx version</A> <A NAME="1064"></A><I>elijah wright</I>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980252340- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000149.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1059"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980252340-00980252841- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000150.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1060"></A><I>Vianney Lecroart</I>
+<UL>
+<!--2 00980252340-00980252841-00980258930- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000156.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1066"></A><I>Vincent Caron</I>
+</UL>
+<!--1 00980252340-00980258556- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000155.html">[Nel] gcc and non-ANSI</A> <A NAME="1065"></A><I>Lionel Berenguier</I>
+</UL>
+<!--0 00980372054- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000159.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="1069"></A><I>Poet007 - Da BondGirl Partner</I>
+<UL>
+<!--1 00980372054-00980412067- -->
+<LI> <A HREF="000160.html">[Nel] Compiling NeL</A> <A NAME="1070"></A><I>Valignat Cedric</I>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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