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That one knows where mobs, +</I>><i> ground items, and PC are relative to each other... but that's about +</I>><i> all it does) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and a few others, I think, who are related to higher-level game dynamics. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I might be off, there's still questions on which service handle which +</I>><i> agent for some cases. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > How do you plan to send the map to the user, i mean, if you divide the game +</I>><i> > in areas, you can say the client to download the map for an area before +</I>><i> > enter, but if you dont use the area-divided approach, then, you must send +</I>><i> > the sorrounding terraing at each step that the client do? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We use a 'mainly static terrain' approach. I.E. the client already has the +</I>><i> various maps parts on-line. We only send gross modifications (i.e. replace +</I>><i> this map part with that pre-patched one, so the rope bridge across the chasm +</I>><i> is no longer there) and local items information (some trees have grown +</I>><i> while you were away). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sending the map on the fly requires substantial sacrifices in term of map +</I>><i> complexity (see Asheron's Call for a good example for this). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > There is no risks of overloading the internal network / get out of sync? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The functional approach is made by looking at the communication between +</I>><i> agents, and putting all agents that discuss with each other the most in +</I>><i> the same services, to avoid network load. Note that agents do *not* +</I>><i> migrate across the network, ever (i.e. a PC full state is always managed +</I>><i> by a specific PC service, regardless of what the PC does or where he +</I>><i> moves). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Vincent Archer Email: <A HREF="mailto:archer@nevrax.com">archer@nevrax.com</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nevrax France. Off on the yellow brick road we go! +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Nel mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="mailto:Nel@nevrax.org">Nel@nevrax.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel">http://www.nevrax.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/nel</A> +</I>><i> +</I> + +---------------------------------------------------------- +Nahuel Greco Web Development - Open Source +<A HREF="http://www.codelarvs.com.ar">http://www.codelarvs.com.ar</A> Game Programming - Research +Freelance coding / sysadmin Networking. The answer is 42. +---------------------------------------------------------- + +</pre> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI> Previous message: <A HREF="000231.html">[Nel] Dynamic load balancing?</A></li> + <LI> Next message: <A HREF="000217.html">[Nel] Dynamic load balancing?</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#232">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#232">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#232">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#232">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> +</body></html> |